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Old 15-Mar-2007, 03:39
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Hi !

No one of them is wrong. (X)
Not one of them is wrong. (O)


Don't you of natives use the first sentence at all?
Why?
"One" is a noun and "no " is adjective.
Adjectives modifiy nouns like " No food can be eaten."

"No one of them is wrong" sounds right to me. ( I'm non-native)

Please~ help me .
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Old 15-Mar-2007, 04:38
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Hi,
No one of contracted into none of. Why did it happen? I guess because it's easier to say.
None of them is aware of the danger.
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Old 15-Mar-2007, 04:49
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Hi,
No one of contracted into none of. Why did it happen? I guess because it's easier to say.
None of them is aware of the danger.
Regards

Hi, Humble.
Thank you for your reply.
But, I've read that "no one of ~ " is not possible.

http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/as...e-nothing.html

Have a nice day~
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Old 15-Mar-2007, 05:27
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I don't think he's saying 'no one of' is right, but that 'none of' is right.
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Old 15-Mar-2007, 05:54
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I don't think he's saying 'no one of' is right, but that 'none of' is right.

Hi~.
"He is" contracts to "He's"
"It is" contracts to "It's".
" do not" contracts to "don't"

In most of the cases, if two words contract into one words or short words, both are right.

So, if "no one of" could be contracted into "none of", both are correct, right?

But I know "none of them" is correct, but "no one of them" is not correct.

That's the point.

Would you explaine why? Please~
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Old 15-Mar-2007, 06:16
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I mean it coud have been contracted centuries back. Now it's wrong to say no one of.
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Old 15-Mar-2007, 06:31
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I mean it coud have been contracted centuries back. Now it's wrong to say no one of.
I see.
So "no one of" is no longer used.
"No one of " might be an ancient word.

Sorry to get you wrong.

<Other questions.>

"Not one of them is wrong." means "One of them is not wrong."?

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Not one of them ( is / are ) wrong.
None of them (is / are) wrong.
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Which one is correct?

Last edited by siruss; 15-Mar-2007 at 06:40.
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"Not one of them is wrong." means "All of them are right."
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Old 15-Mar-2007, 06:59
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Thank both of you.
It helps a lot.
Have a nice day.
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You are welcome, Siruss.
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