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Old 25-Mar-2007, 06:33
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Hello,
I'am a student currently studying in China . And the other day a Chinese student who is studying came up to me with a problem.
She had to find all the 'past participle' verbs in a paragraph.
Here it is:
"It is my pleasure to welcome you to the city of Toowoomba." This is how Councillor Lyle Shelton greeted 137 new international students at their official welcome held at the Southern Cross University campus.
At first i thought that "held ' (in red), was the only verb. But the student then said to me that her Foreign teacher from America told her that "greeted"( In green) was also a past participle.
What do you think? If it's true can you please post me a reply.
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Yes both are verbs and both might be simple past in your context. [I guess]

because simple past and past participle have same forms for (hold, greet)
hold = simple present
held = simple past
held = past participle

greet = simple present
greeted = simple past
greeted = past participle

So, held might be simple past in your context.
Similarly greeted also simple past in your context.

I hope other members/moderators will clarify your doubts more clearly.

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Hello,
I'am a student currently studying in China . And the other day a Chinese student who is studying came up to me with a problem.
She had to find all the 'past participle' verbs in a paragraph.
Here it is:
"It is my pleasure to welcome you to the city of Toowoomba." This is how Councillor Lyle Shelton greeted 137 new international students at their official welcome held at the Southern Cross University campus.
At first i thought that "held ' (in red), was the only verb. But the student then said to me that her Foreign teacher from America told her that "greeted"( In green) was also a past participle.
What do you think? If it's true can you please post me a reply.
Thanks,
past participle is the third form of a verb, irrespective of grammatical function.
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Welcome, JCG.

In addition, there are 5 verbs in all. Three are definitely not past participles. I've marked those off in blue; one is definitely a past participle, and it's not a 'verb' per se, it's part of a verb, notably elliptical, ...(which was) held at... The verb, greeted, as svartnik mentions, looks like a simple past verb as well as a past participle. It could be short for elliptical (had) greeted, which is a past perfect verb. Past perfect verbs, as you know, connect two events in time. The verb carrying past perfect morphology happens first in the series of events. Do you see two events connected here, and if so, can you establish that had greeted happened first? If you can, then, yes, you can safely say that greeted functions as a past participle. If, however, your can't find that connection, then greeted functions as a simple past verb.

"It is my pleasure to welcome you to the city of Toowoomba." This is how Councillor Lyle Shelton greeted 137 new international students at their official welcome held at the Southern Cross University campus.

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Thank you Casiopea. I too got it.
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Oops, sorry, user_gary. It was you, not svartnik, who mentioned the simple past and the past participle of greet are identical in form. I was mistaken. My apologies.
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