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[ian2]

"As persons deprived of memory become disoriented and lost, not knowing where they have been and where they are going, so a nation denied a conception of the past will be disabled in dealing with its present and its future."

Question: Persons deprived and a nation denied---If we just say persons lost their memory and a nation that doesn’t have the conception of the past, how much have I lost, compared with the original passive “deprived and denied”? Who did the depriving and denying anyway? Thanks.

[queenbu]

Originally Posted by ian2

"As persons deprived of memory become disoriented and lost, not knowing where they have been and where they are going, so a nation denied a conception of the past will be disabled in dealing with its present and its future."

Question: Persons deprived and a nation denied---If we just say persons lost their memory and a nation that doesn’t have the conception of the past, how much have I lost, compared with the original passive “deprived and denied”? Who did the depriving and denying anyway? Thanks.

'Just as persons who have lost their memory..........,so a nation that doesn't have the conception of the past.....'
I think that 'persons who have lost their memory and persons deprived of memory doesn't make a difference because loss of memory may be due to an accident or an illness, whilst a nation denied and a nation that doesn't have does make a difference, because someone in particular (someone who has power over the country, government..) has denied the 'conception' of the past. It is not the past that has been denied but the 'conception' of the past. That also makes a difference.
What do others think?