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Hi, there.

Could you tell me the difference between the two sentences:

He was hunting deer when he found the letter.

and

When he was hunting deer he found the letter.

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Welcome, BAUD.


The adverbial phrase (underlined) is topic in [2]:

[1] He was hunting deer when he found the letter.
[2] When he was hunting deer, he found the letter.


Does that help?
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Thank you, Casiopea, for your quick reply.

Actually, I need a little more help. Do you use 'topic' to mean 'theme' in contrast to 'rheme'?

Could you explain it more easily, if possible, with some examples?
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You're welcome.

Try here first, TKI - Fat Tax: Task 12: Theme and Rheme [ESOL Online]
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Thanks again, Casiopea. I've read the article. And I think I figured out the functional sentence perspective.

Now let me ask you the same question, this time, from a grammatical point of view.

The first sentence I quoted above seems to mean that 'He was hunting deer and then he found the letter.'

I suspect if you use when like this you should put a comma before when:

He was hunting deer, when he found the letter.

Is it possible to use when without following a comma? Or is it used only in a certain situation such as only in a colloquial saying or only used with progressive?

A little more help again.
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