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16-Jun-2007, 18:05
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Can although be followed by an adjective or a past participle as in the example below? Although tired, he set off to help his friend.
Although capable of foreseeing what would happen, he decided to act.
My grammar reference doesn't explain this use of although but I have come across it.
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16-Jun-2007, 18:53
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Hello,
Yes, it's fine
:D |
16-Jun-2007, 19:40
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Originally Posted by Trisia  Hello,
Yes, it's fine
:D | Thank you Trisia.
Is this kind of construction commonly used? |
16-Jun-2007, 22:13
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do you know english? |
17-Jun-2007, 02:43
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Originally Posted by Englishlanguage Although tired, he set off to help his friend.
Although capable of foreseeing what would happen, he decided to act.
| Hi -
The first sentence is fine. You show a condition that might lead you to think one thing, but in fact something else happened. You would expect someone who is tired to stay home, but he didn't .
The second sentence is okay grammatically, but not logially. If was able to foresee what would happen, you would EXPECT him to act. It would make more sense as "Although capable of foreseein what would happen, he did nothing."
Likewise, "Although she was beautiful, men found her attractive." Instead, "Although she was rather plain, men found her attractive." |
17-Jun-2007, 07:06
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Hey, Barb.
I see your point, and you're basically right, but there are other ways to understand this. Try to think anime  :He was capable to predict that helping the girl would get him killed/badly injured, yet he went and did it. Now the original sentence makes sense.
Trisia |
17-Jun-2007, 09:39
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Originally Posted by Barb_D Hi -
The first sentence is fine. You show a condition that might lead you to think one thing, but in fact something else happened. You would expect someone who is tired to stay home, but he didn't .
The second sentence is okay grammatically, but not logially. If was able to foresee what would happen, you would EXPECT him to act. It would make more sense as "Although capable of foreseein what would happen, he did nothing."
Likewise, "Although she was beautiful, men found her attractive." Instead, "Although she was rather plain, men found her attractive." | The second sentence seems illogical because it is out of context. You'll see that it does make sense in its context. Although capable of foreseeing what would happen to him, he (Prometheus) decided to act.
Prometheus was punished by the gods because he had stolen the fire from them to give it to men. Since he could foresee the future, he already knew he would be punished, anyway he decided to steal the fire for the sake of mankind.
Is although commonly used in this way? Is it a formal/literary style?  |
17-Jun-2007, 16:16
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Another example of context driving understanding. Without context, it just didn't sound right.
A more natural way to say this for me would be "... he did it anyway." You can replace "Although" with "Despite being." |
17-Jun-2007, 16:35
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This sentence is a part of an essay. If you want to take a look at the whole essay, just go here http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/ed...my-thesis.html
I'll be pleased to hear some adiveces from you. |
17-Jun-2007, 19:29
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My two cents:
I'd like to get some advice from you. (uncountable noun)
pl.: a piece of advice / two pieces of advice | | |
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