more effective

[svartnik]

Hello

It is a more effective method.

It is an effective method.

what is the difference in meaning between the two sentences.

Effective means producing the desired result.

But what does more effective mean? Producing more the desired result? Producing more? something either produces the desired result or not. what does more mean?

Thanks

[bianca]

The adj. effective looks to me as being self-sufficient - meaning having the desired or intended result/effect. More effective sounds wrong, it must be a pleonasm. But maybe not. 'Less effective' means not measuring up to the desired expectation. More effective - better than expected?

[svartnik]

Originally Posted by bianca

The adj. effective looks to me as being self-sufficient - meaning having the desired or intended result/effect. More effective sounds wrong, it must be a pleonasm. But maybe not. 'Less effective' means not measuring up to the desired expectation. More effective - better than expected?

Hej Bianca

Agreed. To me, less effective sounds odd too. I would say not effective.

[bianca]

however, I'm not sure it is a pleonasm. I've come across both 'less' and 'more' effective in spoken and written E.

[svartnik]

Originally Posted by bianca

however, I'm not sure it is a pleonasm. I've come across both 'less' and 'more' effective in spoken and written E.

The most obvious kind of misuse is that which results from sheer error in understanding. One or two people start misusing something and others follow suit.

hej da

[bianca]

are you dead sure about that? I, for one, cannot imply anything until I know it for certain. I didn't say I was sure it wasn't a pleonasm - sounds like that, and yet it doesn't. A mere opinion.
I see you are familiar with 'hej då', can you speak Swedish, by any chance?

[monty python]

Hello..I've checked the British National Corpus, and it does registers tons of "more effective"s used as a multi-word unit..So I'd say it certainly IS used, even though it sounds awkward to say the least.On the other hand, in an informal context, I think I would say something like "My, that was dead effective!!".what do you think?

Ha det (sorry-that's Norwegian.. )

[Anglika]

Originally Posted by svartnik

Hello

It is a more effective method.

It is an effective method.

what is the difference in meaning between the two sentences.

Effective means producing the desired result.

But what does more effective mean? Producing more the desired result? Producing more? something either produces the desired result or not. what does more mean?

Thanks

"More effective" implies that there is comparison to another method, and that the other method is less effective.

Praising a child for good results is more effective in teaching than punishing for poor results.

Hitting a dog is less effective in training that rewarding with food.

[svartnik]

Hello

thanks for the answers

Anglika, but what does less mean in less effective?
Effective seems like an absolute adj.

[bianca]

Originally Posted by monty python

Hello..I've checked the British National Corpus, and it does registers tons of "more effective"s used as a multi-word unit..So I'd say it certainly IS used, even though it sounds awkward to say the least.On the other hand, in an informal context, I think I would say something like "My, that was dead effective!!".what do you think?

Ha det (sorry-that's Norwegian.. )

"Ha det!"- is Swedish, too, nordic languages (S, N, D) are very much alike. How do you say it in Italian?

svartnik, how about being 'ineffective'??