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May I ask if the using of "to + gerund" is correct in the sentence?

"In parallel to this, teachers should be given enough room to establishing a collaborative mechanism under administrative arrangements, so that they can conduct teaching discussions at the same period of time and make plans for the school-based curriculum."

And is there any way to test whether the "to" is a preposition or an infinitive in a sentence?
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May I ask if the using of "to + gerund" is correct in the sentence?

"In parallel to this, teachers should be given enough room to establishing a collaborative mechanism under administrative arrangements, so that they can conduct teaching discussions at the same period of time and make plans for the school-based curriculum."
Well, to my way of thinking, the sentence with the to used as a preposition is fine as well as it is with the to-infinitive.

In parallel to this, teachers should be given enough room to establish (= so that they can establish) a collaborative mechanism under administrative arrangements, so that they can conduct teaching discussions at the same period of time and make plans for the school-based curriculum.

In parallel to this, teachers should be given enough room to establishing (= enough room with the possibility of establishing) a collaborative mechanism under administrative arrangements, so that they can conduct teaching discussions at the same period of time and make plans for the school-based curriculum.

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And is there any way to test whether the "to" is a preposition or an infinitive in a sentence?
You can tell that it's the preposition that is used, not the to-infinitive, because all prepositions take the gerund form of the verb.
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Argh! Why does everyone think it's only Sassenachs that speak the language?

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Argh! Why does everyone think it's only Sassenachs that speak the language?

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Let me correct myself then - I do believe you, for I am not British!
Sassenach - English person, British person... It's all the same...
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Sassenachs ? Do they have anything to do with Anglo-Saxons ?
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Sassenach is the Scots' term for an English person.
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No, in that case it should be to establish. I can't explain why, but I'll think about it and get back to you if I can....
It's in the verb's subcategorization frame:
give + someone + something to do.
Active: The school should give teachers enough room to do something.

Passive: Teachers should be given enough room to do something.


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albertino, there is a way to test whether to functions as a preposition or a particle.

If to is short for towards, it's a preposition:
preposition
10 steps to establishing a fund
10 steps towards establish a fund
If to is short for in order to, it's a particle:
particle

Teachers should be given enough room in order to establish a collaborative mechanism.

Teachers should be given enough room to establish a collaborative mechanism.

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engee30, to establishing does indeed work here--at least in my dialect.
... teachers should be given enough room towards establishing a collaborative mechanism ...

... teachers should be given enough room to establishing a collaborative mechanism ...
But given that to is ambiguous in that position; i.e., to(wards); (in order) to, a good writer would have spelt/spelled out the word towards.

In sum, the particle lead infinitive to establish has my vote.
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engee30, to establishing does indeed work here--at least in my dialect.
... teachers should be given enough room towards establishing a collaborative mechanism ...

... teachers should be given enough room to establishing a collaborative mechanism ...
But given that to is ambiguous in that position; i.e., to(wards); (in order) to, a good writer would have spelt/spelled out the word towards.
That's true. Let me show another two sentences that are similar, yet different to each other, with a little change in meaning (the change that you provided, Casiopea, I guess):

Two-way trade with foreign nations is the only really practical way to (= in order to) achieve peace on this earth.
Nixon is well on the way to (= towards) achieving a historic reconstruction of the postal service.

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In sum, the particle lead infinitive to establish has my vote.
I opt for the same.
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