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Old 02-Jul-2007, 08:22
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Hello,

"The CD has been listened to to make sure it works." I've asked some people, and they said it's weird. Could you tell me what's wrong with this sentence?

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Maybe it's awkward, but it's not wrong. Probably seeing the two to's coming together looks strange to some. I'd put a comma between them; the pause helps, don't you think?

Or, change "listened to" to "played." That eliminates the weirdness.

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Old 02-Jul-2007, 11:07
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I see nothing wrong with it,it's correct!
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Old 02-Jul-2007, 11:13
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Hi
your sentence is correct don't change anything "listened to " is a unit that is one word it's a phrasal verb and the second to is a preposition
you're right
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Old 02-Jul-2007, 15:20
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Welcome, TerryWang.

It is weird, I agree. Try active voice,

Ex: We listened to the CD (in order) to make sure (that) it worked.

Does that help?
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Welcome, TerryWang.

It is weird, I agree. Try active voice,

Ex: We listened to the CD (in order) to make sure (that) it worked.

Does that help?
I agree with you
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Old 02-Jul-2007, 15:23
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If you are not a teacher, you must clearly state that in your post.

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Your sentence is correct don't change anything. Listened to is a one-word unit, a phrasal verb. The second to is a preposition.

You're right.
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Old 02-Jul-2007, 15:25
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If you are not a teacher, you must clearly state so in your post.

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I see nothing wrong with it. It's correct!
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Old 02-Jul-2007, 15:37
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Welcome, Ikia.

Adding a comma is a good repair strategy here,

Ex: The CD has been listened to, to make sure that it works.

But the sentence still stands awkward. The reason being, the subject here to make sure... lacks a referent. Who made sure? Its referent is missing. It's normally found in the main clause, but our main clause is in passive voice and the subject of that clause is unstated. The result, the subject of the second clause lacks a referent. Consider,

Ex: In order to/that we make sure the CD works, we have to listen to it.

Ex: We have to listen to the CD in order to/that we make sure it
works.

All the best
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Old 02-Jul-2007, 19:19
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Hi Casiopea
Thanks for correcting my punctuation mistakes
I really appreciate that
Thanks again
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