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Old 10-May-2004, 17:13
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It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys partying way past their
prime."


I don't understand the word partying in this sentence
Is it comes from "are partying" or "who are partying"?
If it the present continuous, why doesn't "are" or "who are" is written before it?
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We can omit the 'who are'. Sometimes, we use the present or past participle as an adjective and omit the relative pronoun:

John, interested in stamps,...
Here, we can skip the 'whois'.
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I agree with TDOL's response. As it is written, it is not a complete sentence. This would be quite normal in conversation. The sentence fragment is attached to the first senetnce, defing what is "sad". If one wanted it to be a sentence one would put "are" before "partying" to make a complete progressive verb. If one inserted "who are" it would remain a sentence fragment, but it would change "partying" from a participle-adjective to part of progressive verb in a relative clause.

I don't understand please answer these questions...

1. Do you mean The sentence fragment is All these older guys partying way past their prime."??

2.Do you mean sentence fragment is a part of sentence?? so is a fragment of what sentence--- A.It's sad--- B. isn't it ?? or it is not a part of sentence??
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Old 10-May-2004, 18:45
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Wendy, please reply to the posts rather than creating new discussions. It is very difficult to keep track otherwise.
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Wendy, please reply to the posts rather than creating new discussions. It is very difficult to keep track otherwise.
I totally agree with you, King.
But she's a girl, be gentleman, king.
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Old 10-May-2004, 22:00
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Wendy, please reply to the posts rather than creating new discussions. It is very difficult to keep track otherwise.
I totally agree with you, King.
But she's a girl, be gentleman, king.
He was being a gentleman. :wink:
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Old 10-May-2004, 23:28
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Default Re: Dear MikeNewYork... sentence fragment

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Quote:
Originally Posted by I
It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys partying way past their
prime."


I don't understand the word partying in this sentence
Is it comes from "are partying" or "who are partying"?
If it the present continuous, why doesn't "are" or "who are" is written before it?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tdol
We can omit the 'who are'. Sometimes, we use the present or past participle as an adjective and omit the relative pronoun:

John, interested in stamps,...
Here, we can skip the 'whois'.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeNewYork
I agree with TDOL's response. As it is written, it is not a complete sentence. This would be quite normal in conversation. The sentence fragment is attached to the first senetnce, defing what is "sad". If one wanted it to be a sentence one would put "are" before "partying" to make a complete progressive verb. If one inserted "who are" it would remain a sentence fragment, but it would change "partying" from a participle-adjective to part of progressive verb in a relative clause.

I don't understand please answer these questions...

1. Do you mean The sentence fragment is All these older guys partying way past their prime."??

2.Do you mean sentence fragment is a part of sentence?? so is a fragment of what sentence--- A.It's sad--- B. isn't it ?? or it is not a part of sentence??
Sentence fragments stand alone. They are actually quite common in speech and informal writing. Unlike a sentence, a sentence fragment does not contain a verb. Like sentences, sentence fragments need context to have meaning.

The sentence fragment that comes after "It's sad, isn't it?" gives the reader or listener information not contained in the sentence, completing the statement. The combination could be (but need not be) rewritten as a sentence, thus: "The sight of all these old guys partying past their prime is sad, isn't it?"

Does that help?

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Old 11-May-2004, 00:41
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The combination could be (but need not be) rewritten as a sentence,
I second that!
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Hey! Why r u guys posting blank messages? Remember that we are here to improve our english.
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