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02-Jun-2004, 02:33
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In this sentence:
Johnson lived a rock-and-roll lifestyle and was no stranger to liquor, gambling and women - married or otherwise.
Does "married or otherwise" refer to "women" or Johnson? |
02-Jun-2004, 04:06
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Originally Posted by Eway In this sentence:
Johnson lived a rock-and-roll lifestyle and was no stranger to liquor, gambling and women - married or otherwise.
Does "married or otherwise" refer to "women" or Johnson? | That refers to "women". :wink: |
02-Jun-2004, 07:46
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Johnson, married or therwise, lived a rock and roll lifestyle????  |
03-Jun-2004, 02:53
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Originally Posted by tdol Johnson, married or therwise, lived a rock and roll lifestyle???? | But...can't it mean "Johnson, married or otherwise, is no stranger to women"? |
03-Jun-2004, 13:12
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The way I have phrased it suggests, IMO, that Johnson enjoyed the lifestyle both when he was married and when single, and, yes, I do think here the emphasis would be on relations with women rather than chemicals.  |
04-Jun-2004, 04:10
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Originally Posted by tdol The way I have phrased it suggests, IMO, that Johnson enjoyed the lifestyle both when he was married and when single, and, yes, I do think here the emphasis would be on relations with women rather than chemicals. |
???
What does IMO stand for?
And what do those "chemicals" refer to?
Tdol, I don't understand your humor... :?
And...how to tell that "married or otherse" refers to Johnson or women? |
04-Jun-2004, 05:41
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IMO stand for ''In My Opinion''
(others .. FYI = For your information, BTW = By the way) Quote: |
Johnson lived a rock-and-roll lifestyle and was no stranger to liquor, gambling and women - married or otherwise | I think it is for ''women''. (same like Mike)
Meaning ... he like to have an affair with any kind of women. He don't care whether the women married or single (opposite for married). |
04-Jun-2004, 11:10
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Originally Posted by Eway Quote: |
Originally Posted by tdol The way I have phrased it suggests, IMO, that Johnson enjoyed the lifestyle both when he was married and when single, and, yes, I do think here the emphasis would be on relations with women rather than chemicals. |
???
What does IMO stand for?
And what do those "chemicals" refer to?
Tdol, I don't understand your humor... :?
And...how to tell that "married or otherse" refers to Johnson or women? | Chemicals= drugs, a staple of rock and roll lifestyles.
You can tell who 'married or otherwise' refers to from its position in the sentence- to make it modify him, I moverd it nearer. ' |
04-Jun-2004, 11:29
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Originally Posted by Eway In this sentence:
Johnson lived a rock-and-roll lifestyle and was no stranger to liquor, gambling and women - married or otherwise.
Does "married or otherwise" refer to "women" or Johnson? | I agree with Mike's response. If 'married and otherwise' were modifying 'Johnson', then it would be in closer proximity to that noun.
Johnson lives a rock-and-roll lifestyle and was no stranger--married or otherwise--to liquor, gambling and women.
The writer place 'married or otherwise' directly after 'women' in order to modify 'women' with extra information. In other words,
Johnson was no stranger to married women.
In short, the writer is suggesting that a person (i.e. Johnson) who drinks, gambles, and dates married women lacks morals). |
04-Jun-2004, 19:09
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Originally Posted by Casiopea
In short, the writer is suggesting that a person (i.e. Johnson) who drinks, gambles, and dates married women lacks morals).
| At any rate, he is suggesting that that is part of a rock and roll lifestyle.
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