really the same?

[Tdol]

Not really- I'd have to interpret it as leaving the heater on, but it's not a winning sentence. I'd use 'leaving'.

[Taka]

Not really- I'd have to interpret it as leaving the heater on, but it's not a winning sentence. I'd use 'leaving'.

OK. Then, what about this sentence?: "He went out with his radio on".

Which comes first as your interpretation, "He went out, leaving his radio on"? or "He went out, carrying his radio, and the radio was on"?

[Tdol]

Here, there's a much stronger case for the second. If you changed it walkman, what would happen?

[Taka]

Here, there's a much stronger case for the second. If you changed it walkman, what would happen?

That's my point! I mean, it's not the "with+thing+status" structure but your common sense whether or not the thing is portable that strongly determines the interpretation of the sentence, right?

[MikeNewYork]

Here, there's a much stronger case for the second. If you changed it walkman, what would happen?

That's my point! I mean, it not the "with+thing+status" structure but your common sense whether or not the thing is portable that strongly determines the interpretation of the sentence, right?

Exactly! :wink:

[Taka]

Exactly! :wink:

Arigato, Mike!

[MikeNewYork]

Exactly! :wink:

Arigato, Mike!

Arigato, Taka! :wink:

[Casiopea]

It's hard work wearing a radiator on a hot day.