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Question heard her say & heard she says

Are these meaning the same things?

A. I have heard her say, "I hate my job."

B. I have heard she says, "I hate my job."


Please let me know.



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Old 15-Sep-2007, 15:38
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Are these meaning the same things?

A. I have heard her say, "I hate my job."

B. I have heard she says, "I hate my job."

Please let me know.


They mean the same thing.
I (have) heard her say,"I hate my job." (one clause sentence + quotation)
I (have) heard her saying,"I hate my job." (one clause sentence + quotation)
I have heard (that) she says,"I hate my job." (Main clause + subordinate clause + quotation).
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Old 15-Sep-2007, 15:54
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They mean the same thing.
I (have) heard her say,"I hate my job." (one clause sentence + quotation)
I (have) heard her saying,"I hate my job." (one clause sentence + quotation)
I have heard (that) she says,"I hate my job." (Main clause + subordinate clause + quotation).
There's a slight difference in what information is given, in my opinion.

I (have) heard her say/saying, 'I hate my job.' implies that I personally heard her say/saying so, whereas I have heard that she says, 'I hate my job.' doesn't - I may, or may not, have been present when she was saying that thing, I might've only been told about what she was saying.
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Old 15-Sep-2007, 16:16
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you are right.
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Are these meaning the same things?
Do these mean the same thing?
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Hello, justinwschang, engee30 and Soup.
Thank you very much for your comments.
I became able to clearly understand the difference between them and I realized my mistakes in my writing.

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Hello, justinwschang, engee30 and Soup.
Thank you very much for your comments.
I am able to understand the difference between them clearly now, and I realized my mistakes in my writing.
See correction.
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Old 16-Sep-2007, 16:45
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Just one more voice:
I heard she says - this sounds like she says this often. You have never heard it yourself, but she says it often enough that it's common knowledge she says this. It's a habitual action for her.

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Thank you for another correction, Soup.
You've been very helpful!
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