To Mike sensei

[Tdol]

My first reaction is that we don't use 'excited' for inanimate things, but I'll have to mull it over.

[RonBee]

Originally Posted by Taka

I know you would normally choose those words instead of "excited". But that's not my question. My question is, why can't "As soon as M. Jordan came in, the game became excited." be understood as a metaphor?

One more thing to ask. You said you would use "animated". If "animated" is possible, why not "excited"?

I would use "animated" to describe the pace of the game. (You could also say a game is fast or slow.) But "excited" would, in my opinion, describe the way the game feels, but games don't have feelings. (True, electrons can become excited, but electrons move; games usually do not.)

:)

[Taka]

Originally Posted by RonBee

I would use "animated" to describe the pace of the game. (You could also say a game is fast or slow.) But "excited" would, in my opinion, describe the way the game feels, but games don't have feelings. (True, electrons can become excited, but electrons move; games usually do not.)

:)

"An excited game" is acceptable, but, according to your theory, "the game became excited" is not.

Such an enigma...really... :?

[Casiopea]

Originally Posted by Taka

FYI, check this out:

"I'm just trying to play a relaxed game," Miller said. "An excited game isn't the style that works up here and luckily for me, I'm more relaxed, not real flashy and flamboyant. I can let the game kind of come to me."

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/score...JOSE---0nr.htm

What do you think?

It's new. :D
It means, tensed-up, heated.

An excited game: a tensed-up game / a heated game
The game became excited: The game got tense / heated.
Don't get all excited: tensed up / heated

Douitashimashite 8)

[Taka]

Originally Posted by Casiopea

It's new. :D

You mean it was quite recently that native speakers started using it?

Originally Posted by Casiopea

The game became excited: The game got tense / heated.

So, though not widely, it is acceptable, as Mr. Will says, right?

[Casiopea]

Originally Posted by Taka

You mean it was quite recently that native speakers started using it?

So, though not widely, it is acceptable, as Mr. Will says, right?

Well, it's acceptable within a certain area (i.e. sports). :D It's a semantic extension of sorts which has yet to make its way through the language. It's still on the fringe; but, if speakers start using it elsewhere (i.e. outside of sports), it may catch on. At the moment, though, it comes across as awkward, especially if speakers haven't heard it before.

1. John is exciting. (Describes what people think of John)
2. John is excited. (Describes John's emotional state)

3. The game is exciting. (Describes what people think of the game)
4. The game is excited. (Describes the games emotional state.) NOT OK

Try, the players/fans excite/stir up the game:

5. The game is (being) excited (by the players/by the fans) . OK
6. Don't excite the game! OK
7. It's an excited/stirred up/heated game. OK

All the best,

[Taka]

So, "As soon as Michael Jordan came in, the game became excited." is OK?

[Casiopea]

Originally Posted by Taka

So, "As soon as Michael Jordan came in, the game became excited." is OK?

The game got stirred up, tense, heated up. :D

All the best,

[Taka]

Originally Posted by Casiopea

The game got stirred up, tense, heated up. :D

All the best,

I'm asking you if it sounds natural to you or not.

[Casiopea]

Originally Posted by Taka

I'm asking you if it sounds natural to you or not.

I've stated my professional opinion: The game did not get exciting; it got stirred up, heated, tense. :D (My personal opinion is of no consequence. It's all about what you think. 8))

What do you think? :D