#1  
Old 24-Oct-2007, 17:48
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6
Member Type: Student or Learner
Cool The word "information."

I am a doctoral learner. I submitted a paper and was corrected on the point that the word "information" is ALWAYS plural. I have never heard anyone say "information are." Is this plural usage only in scholarly writing, or has the whole of America been saying "information is" incorrectly.

Thank you.
  #2  
Old 25-Oct-2007, 12:54
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 78
Member Type: Student or Learner
Smile Re: The word "information."

information is. . . .

informations are. . . . .

is-singular
are-plural
  #3  
Old 25-Oct-2007, 13:04
Key Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,869
Home Country: Romania
Native Language: Romanian
Current Location: Romania
Member Type: English Teacher
Default Re: The word "information."

Quote:
Originally Posted by cls1992 View Post
I am a doctoral learner. I submitted a paper and was corrected on the point that the word "information" is ALWAYS plural. I have never heard anyone say "information are." Is this plural usage only in scholarly writing, or has the whole of America been saying "information is" incorrectly.

Thank you.
Yeng :
Informations is incorrect. Information is [not are!]

Cls 1992 :
The noun information is always followed by verbs or determinatives in the singular. Information is an uncountable noun

e.g.

The information [ that] he got was important. It [the information] was important.
If you want to change information into a countable noun, you have to use a quantifier : a piece of

Those / These pieces of information were important , but
That / This information was / is important.

Note : information has a plural meaning but , as I have already said, it is an uncountable noun followed by a singular verb or determiner.

Last edited by Teia; 25-Oct-2007 at 13:18.
  #4  
Old 26-Oct-2007, 08:31
Editor, UsingEnglish.com
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 34,371
Home Country: UK
Native Language: British English
Current Location: Philippines
Member Type: English Teacher
Default Re: The word "information."

I agree with Teia; I use 'information' uncountably. 'Data' is often used uncountably in everyday English, but in academic English datum/data are used as singular and plural.
  #5  
Old 26-Oct-2007, 09:34
amigos4's Avatar
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 23,671
Home Country: United States
Native Language: American English
Current Location: United States
Member Type: Academic
Default Re: The word "information."

Quote:
Originally Posted by cls1992 View Post
I am a doctoral learner. I submitted a paper and was corrected on the point that the word "information" is ALWAYS plural. I have never heard anyone say "information are." Is this plural usage only in scholarly writing, or has the whole of America been saying "information is" incorrectly.

Thank you.
Can you give us the specific sentence that caught the attention of your professor?
  #6  
Old 27-Oct-2007, 01:03
Newbie
Threadstarter  
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6
Member Type: Student or Learner
Default Re: The word "information."

Quote:
Originally Posted by amigos4 View Post
Can you give us the specific sentence that caught the attention of your professor?
The sentence read: "Knowing how to obtain knowledge and knowing how to use that information is being recognized as a very important issue."

Although the professor said that "information" is always plural, I think the situation is different than that. Perhaps you can help clarify.
  #7  
Old 28-Oct-2007, 00:13
amigos4's Avatar
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 23,671
Home Country: United States
Native Language: American English
Current Location: United States
Member Type: Academic
Default Re: The word "information."

Quote:
Originally Posted by cls1992 View Post
The sentence read: "Knowing how to obtain knowledge and knowing how to use that information is being recognized as a very important issue."

Although the professor said that "information" is always plural, I think the situation is different than that. Perhaps you can help clarify.
cls1992,

I am still having difficulty understanding your professor's position. So, let me throw out this thought: Would the following sentence satisfy his concept of 'plural'? "Knowing how to obtain knowledge and knowing how to use that information are recognized as very important issues."

(Knowing how to fish and knowing how to properly clean that fish are two important components of your camping adventure.)

Any thoughts?

Cheers,
Amigos4
  #8  
Old 28-Oct-2007, 00:24
No Longer With Us
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 19,449
Member Type: Other
Default Re: The word "information."

Quote:
Originally Posted by cls1992 View Post
The sentence read: "Knowing how to obtain knowledge and knowing how to use that information is being recognized as a very important issue."

Although the professor said that "information" is always plural, I think the situation is different than that. Perhaps you can help clarify.
An interesting problem in its own right.

You have two actions - [knowing how to obtain knowledge] and [knowing how to use the information obtained] - which are being seen as a single important issue. The question is whether it is the two actions separately that govern the verb, or the two actions as a joint action?

Information in itself is always singular, but in fact it is not "information" that is relevant, but "knowing how to use the information". I cannot see why the professor is hung up on the word.
  #9  
Old 28-Oct-2007, 04:21
Newbie
Threadstarter  
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6
Member Type: Student or Learner
Default Re: The word "information."

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anglika View Post
An interesting problem in its own right.

You have two actions - [knowing how to obtain knowledge] and [knowing how to use the information obtained] - which are being seen as a single important issue. The question is whether it is the two actions separately that govern the verb, or the two actions as a joint action?

Information in itself is always singular, but in fact it is not "information" that is relevant, but "knowing how to use the information". I cannot see why the professor is hung up on the word.
I thank you for your comments. This was an online class, which I am no longer taking. The professor was not from America, so he may have considered "information" and "data" to be the same. I will not be using "information are." Thanks again for your responses. This includes you Amigos4.
  #10  
Old 28-Oct-2007, 04:36
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 123
Member Type: Other
Default Re: The word "information."

Isn't the 'Information Age' a wonderful thing?



Wholeman
The twisted TG-Fiction Author
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Tags
grammar, usage


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The meaning with no word . . . ScaryEders General Language Discussions 5 06-May-2009 07:15
Vocabulary huda23 Teaching English 2 04-Aug-2008 22:38
The misused word--absolute pljames Text Analysis and Statistics 10 13-Dec-2007 22:19
word forms Unregistered Ask a Teacher 1 14-Feb-2007 09:47
Word Checker 1 - The Dolch basic word list Tdol UsingEnglish.com Content 0 24-May-2004 13:26


All times are GMT. The time now is 00:10.



Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.