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| |  located to the north of the park
Gertrude's house is located to the north of the park.
Gertrude's house is located north of the park.
Do both of the above two versions read equally well? If so, do they convey the same idea? Thanks. |
05-Nov-2007, 02:26
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| |  Re: located to the north of the park
They mean the same thing.
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| | Re: located to the north of the park
I would attempt to explain the subtle differences, but I wouldn't want to give you a headache. 
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| | Re: located to the north of the park
Please do so, Wholeman. |
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| | Re: located to the north of the park
The sentences mean about the same or perhaps the first one means the house is located toward the north of but inside the park and the second means it’s located near the north perimeter of (but outside) the park?
Grammatically the object of the preposition ‘to’ in the first sentence is an adverb phrase modifying ‘is located’. ‘North of the park’ in the second sentence is also an adverb phrase modifying the same verb. The first ‘north’ is a noun whereas the second ‘north’ functions as an adverb. |
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| | Re: located to the north of the park
"Gertrude's house is located to the north of the park."
This can mean that the house is anywhere north of the park, or inside the park. It can mean slightly west or east of the park as well.
"Gertrude's house is located north of the park."
This means that the house is not northeast, northwest, or inside, but directly north of the park.
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07-Nov-2007, 02:12
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| | Re: located to the north of the park
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Originally Posted by Wholeman  "Gertrude's house is located to the north of the park."
This can mean that the house is anywhere north of the park, or inside the park. It can mean slightly west or east of the park as well. As a static location, I don't believe 'to the north' allows that Gertrude's house is in the park, Mr Wholeman. This is different than a moving, "Let's walk/go/hike to the north of the park" where it's possible that either meaning, "the north end of the park" or "outside the north boundary of the park" could be glossed. Context would fill in or with the addition of 'end', in "Let's hike to the north end of the park", the actual meaning would become clear.
"Gertrude's house is located north of the park."
This means that the house is not northeast, northwest, or inside, but directly north of the park. If that were so, wouldn't it make words like 'straight' or 'due' superfluous?
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Originally Posted by Buddhaheart ... the first one means the house is located toward the north of but inside the park | After a wee bit of reflection, I agree with B and W that it could carry the meaning of "inside the park". |
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| | Re: located to the north of the park
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Originally Posted by angliholic Gertrude's house is located to the north of the park.
Gertrude's house is located north of the park.
Do both of the above two versions read equally well? If so, do they convey the same idea? Thanks. | Absent context that might somehow indicate otherwise, I would assume that they mean more or less the same thing.  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes |  Linear Mode | 
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