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Old 11-Nov-2007, 19:39
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Smile couldn't verb vs coundn't have p.p ???

Hey,

I wanna express following situation.

A: hey, did you sleep well?

B1: No! I couldn't have slept well because of noisy sounds.
B2: No! I couldn't sleep well because of noisy sounds!

Which one between B1 and B2 is correct?

Thanks !!
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Old 11-Nov-2007, 20:15
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Default Re: couldn't verb vs coundn't have p.p ???

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Hey,

I wanna express following situation.

A: hey, did you sleep well?

B1: No! I couldn't have slept well because of noisy sounds.
B2: No! I couldn't sleep well because of noisy sounds!

Which one between B1 and B2 is correct?

Thanks !!
I would not use "could" in these sentence. Although #B2 is not too bad of a sentence. I would say it as follows:

No! I didn't sleep well because of noisy sounds! or
No! I didn't sleep well because of all the noise!
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Old 11-Nov-2007, 22:17
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Default Re: couldn't verb vs coundn't have p.p ???

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Originally Posted by soleiljy View Post
Hey,

I wanna express following situation.

A: hey, did you sleep well?

B1: No! I couldn't have slept well because of noisy sounds.
B2: No! I couldn't sleep well because of noisy sounds!

Which one between B1 and B2 is correct?

Thanks !!

We can and do use <couldn't> to discuss past time events, Soleijy, but in this case, I'd suggest it's a bit more natural to a switch to <wasn't able to sleep well ...>. Note that I'm not saying that you cannot use <couldn't>.

However, you CANNOT use <couldn't have slept well ...> to get the same meaning, because that gives it a conditional meaning, for example,

I couldn't have slept well even if there hadn't been noises because the bed wasn't comfortable.

I have to disagree with my learned colleague, Naamplao, because the use of <didn't sleep well> changes the meaning to a statement of simple fact, whereas the modal or semi-modal gives a more emotive sense.

Also, "noisy sounds" isn't, IMHO, a very natural way to say this. Naamplao gave you a good alternative. Another is, "the noise".
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