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Old 28-Nov-2007, 19:13
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Dear teachers,

Would you please tell me what should I say:

1) “ to work in / at (?) a butcher / a butcher’s / a butchery / in a butcher shop (?)” (= dans une boucherie)

2) “a membership of actors” ? (= company ?)

3) “a tell-story” (does this expression exist ? = a folk-tale ?)

4) X wrote besides plays poems OR X wrote plays besides poems.

5) The fact that John left / had left (?) his home town (native town = wrong?) is a blessing because if he didn’t / hadn’t he wouldn’t have had the chance to ...

6) they discovered / perceived the ??? of his talent.
(= “symptoms” but in a positive sense)

7) Actors started to talk to him before becoming a well-known person.
(“becoming” here refers to “actors” or “him”?)

8) "to perceive someone’s intelligence" ?
(= when talking to s.o. you can feel that they are intelligent)

9) “he is on his way to become famous” ?
(= he set his foot on the road to fame)

Thank you for your help,
Hela
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Dear teachers,

Would you please tell me what should I say:

1) “ to work in / at (?) a butcher / a butcher’s / a butchery / in a butcher shop (?)” (= dans une boucherie) in a butcher's

2) “a membership of actors” ? (= company ?) company is fine

3) “a tell-story” (does this expression exist ? = a folk-tale ?) I think some context might help here.

4) X wrote besides plays poems OR X wrote plays besides poems. OR Besides poems, X wrote plays.

5) The fact that John left / had left (?)[either is fine] his home town (native town = wrong?home town is more colloquial) is a blessing because if he didn’t / hadn’t he wouldn’t have had the chance to ...

6) they discovered / perceived the ??? of his talent. perceived the evidence
(= “symptoms” but in a positive sense)

7) Actors started to talk to him before becoming a well-known person.
(“becoming” here refers to “actors” or “him”?) I think "him" - Before he became famous, actors had started to talk to him.

8) "to perceive someone’s intelligence" ?
(= when talking to s.o. you can feel that they are intelligent) "became aware of xxxx's intelligence

9) “he is on his way to becoming famous” ?
(= he set his foot on the road to fame)

Thank you for your help,
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Thank you very much, Anglika, for answering so promptly.

2) but is it correct or wrong to say “a membership of actors” to mean “a company of actors” ?

3) can we say that a legend is a tell-story (= a folk-tale) ?
There is a difference between a “myth” and a “legend”, isn’t there?

5)but if I say “left” in the first clause can I use “hadn’t” in the second ?
The fact that John left his native town is a blessing because if he hadn’t he wouldn’t have had the chance to ...”

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#1 I have never seen this used - "company" is the accepted term.

#2 A folk-tale could be a legend. Yes, there is a difference - myths are stories explaining natural or social phenomena, usually involving supernatural beings. Legends are traditional stories [folk tales are traditional stories]

#3 Indeed you can: The fact that John left his home town was blessing, because if he had not left it he would not have had a chance to....
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Good morning Anglika,

So in the following sentence you do not put an article before "blessing", would you please tell me why?

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The fact that John left his home town was blessing, because if he had not left it he would not have had a chance to....
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Sorry - late night typo. You do need the article.
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