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Old 09-Dec-2007, 23:24
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LONGMAN ENGLISH GRAMMAR says we can say 'all day' or 'all the day'; 'all year/month', 'all the year/month'.
But CAMBRIDGE LEARNER'S DICTIONARY says not to use 'the' in these phrases.

As an ESL learner, how should we use these phrases? Thank you.
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There is an expression "all the day long", but it's unusual, maybe archaic.

Otherwise "all the day" is nearly impossible.
"The" creeps in only when something follows:
The baby was sleeping all the day that I visited her parents.
It snowed all the month of December.
I lived in China all the year 1984.

These sentences are possible, by I'm not sure all native speakers would accept them.

Otherwise, "all the day", etc., sound bad to me.

I don't know why, but "all day" and "all morning" and "all afternoon" and "all night" and "all year", are perfectly good English; "all week" is okay, but probably not as common, and I wouldn't say "all month" at all.

It puzzles me that Longman would give such strange advice.

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LONGMAN ENGLISH GRAMMAR says we can say 'all day' or 'all the day'; 'all year/month', 'all the year/month'.
But CAMBRIDGE LEARNER'S DICTIONARY says not to use 'the' in these phrases.

As an ESL learner, how should we use these phrases? Thank you.
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Old 10-Dec-2007, 00:17
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Dear baqarah131,
Thank you very much for your help. And I must tell you that it was I, not Longman, who was mistaken. LONGMAN ENGLISH GRAMMAR, 5.22.2 says:

"All' can be used in: all (the) day/ night/ week/ year/ summer, but not with hour/ century. (I'm using LONGMAN'S Chinese translation, not the original grammar. So my sentence here is not its original description.)

I REALLY must apoligize to L.G. Alexander for this serious mistake. LONGMAN GRAMMAR is my favourite grammar book. And the word 'month' is not included in all these phrases.
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Default Re: all day, all the day

I still think Longman is allowing "the" where it wouldn't ordinarily be used.

I think time expressions are really essential if you want to be fluent in English. Perhaps textbooks don't pay as much attention to them as they should.

I suggest you listen for these expressions, and look for them in your reading.

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