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24-Dec-2007, 07:39
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| |  but he or but him?
Question: What case, wether subjective or objective, should go after but?
1- There's no god but He.
2- There's no god but Him.
3- None but He is worthy of worship.
4- None but Him is worthy of worship.
Which of four is/ are correct?
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24-Dec-2007, 07:44
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| |  Re: but he or but him?
1- There is no God but He.
3- None but He is worthy of worship.
This requires strictly formal grammar, and no use of contractions. |
24-Dec-2007, 08:04
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| | Re: but he or but him?
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Originally Posted by David L.  1- There is no God but He.
3- None but He is worthy of worship.
This requires strictly formal grammar, and no use of contractions. | Thanks for your answer but what do we do in other cases? (Talking about Tim can we say) None but him knew what was going on. |
24-Dec-2007, 08:12
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| | Re: but he or but him?
Then this is not some religious text, but an ordinary casual situation, where all the formal rules can be relaxed.
In casual speech we would say, "Only Tim knew what was going on."
"Tim was the only one who had any idea what was going on."
and for special, appropriate occasions, but very serviceable: "Does anyone have any idea what the hell is going on around this place?"(lol) |
24-Dec-2007, 08:15
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Thanks very much. |
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| |  Re: but he or but him?
Subjective is formal and prescriptive,yet descriptive grammer in Linguistics shows the widespread use of 'him',with reference to the querry.Raja Sharma. |
24-Dec-2007, 08:58
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Originally Posted by Rajasir Subjective is formal and prescriptive,yet descriptive grammer in Linguistics shows the widespread use of 'him',with reference to the querry.Raja Sharma. | Very informative, indeed. Could you please give some examples so that I'll fully grasp the rules?
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