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Old 09-Jan-2008, 13:41
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Hello! Sorry, I’ve got one of those horrible grammar terminology questions to ask you. In the following sentence, I’m supposed to decide whether the underlined part is a noun phrase or a clause:
With two white grandfathers, and having been brought up as a Methodist in a Roman Catholic community, Walcott is ideally placed to express the Caribbean’s confusions of cultural identity.
Apparently, it’s a noun phrase, but I can’t really see why, as the verb is declined as a present perfect passive, and so, to my understanding, is working as a verb. Could someone help me with this one, please?
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With two white grandfathers, and having been brought up as a Methodist in a Roman Catholic community, Walcott is ideally placed to express the Caribbean’s confusions of cultural identity.
Apparently, it’s a noun phrase, but I can’t really see why, as the verb is declined as a present perfect passive, and so, to my understanding, is working as a verb. Could someone help me with this one, please?
I think it's a noun phrase, too. Having been brought up= the bringing up of...=his education

Actually, if we translated this to Spanish we would have to say: , y su educación como...., where it is very clear.

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I think it's a noun phrase, too. Having been brought up= the bringing up of...=his education

Actually, if we translated this to Spanish we would have to say: , y su educación como...., where it is very clear.

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My impression is that it's a participal clause. There is a good discussion about these here: BBC World Service | Learning English | Learn it
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Actually, Heidita, I think the translation into Spanish should be "Y habiendo sido educado ..." which I think is a clause too, so I'm afraid that doesn´t help.
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