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Old 08-Aug-2004, 10:33
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Old 08-Aug-2004, 15:17
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i need to about past perfect including the examples
Talking about two events connected in the past:

First event: John came home.
Second event: We ate dinner.

Past Perfect
Before John came home, we had eaten dinner.
We had eaten dinner, before John came home.

In other words, two actions/events happened in the past. The event that happened first (i.e. we ate dinner) is in the Past Perfect (i.e. had eaten).

Use this template:

First, _____, then ______.

EX: First, John had come home, then we ate dinner.

You could also use the word 'after':

EX: After John had come home, we ate dinner.
EX: We ate dinner, after John had come home.

Note that, John had came home is the first event. It happened first. Then we ate dinner. That is the second event. It happened second.

All the best, :D
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Old 08-Aug-2004, 18:25
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Originally Posted by Habibullah
i need to about past perfect including the examples
Talking about two events connected in the past:

First event: John came home.
Second event: We ate dinner.

Past Perfect
Before John came home, we had eaten dinner.
We had eaten dinner, before John came home.

In other words, two actions/events happened in the past. The event that happened first (i.e. we ate dinner) is in the Past Perfect (i.e. had eaten).

Use this template:

First, _____, then ______.

EX: First, John had come home, then we ate dinner.

You could also use the word 'after':

EX: After John had come home, we ate dinner.
EX: We ate dinner, after John had come home.

Note that, John had came home is the first event. It happened first. Then we ate dinner. That is the second event. It happened second.

All the best, :D
The past perfect expresses an activity that was completed before another activity or time in the past. I learned that when either "before" or "after" is used, the use of the past perfect is not necessary because these words make the meaning perfectly clear.

Sam left before Ann got there. = Sam had left before Ann got there.
(Either the past perfect or simple past can be used because the two sentences mean exactly the same...)

Sam had left when Ann got there. = Sam was no longer there when Ann arrived. (In this case, the past perfect is necessary.)
Sam left when Ann got there. = Sam left at the same time that Ann arrived. (In this example, it is necessary to use the simple past.)

We had lunch when John came home. :)
We had had lunch when John came home. :) both ok but different meanings

We had lunch before John came home. :)
We had had lunch when John came home. :)
John came home after we had lunch. :)
John came home after we had had lunch. :) all four say the same thing

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Old 08-Aug-2004, 18:40
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Are you in seventh heaven? There are smileys all the way! :) :) :)

Engish is very interesting when I'm able to notice any slight changes that contrast meanings! I like your examples of 'past perfect.' and I'm going to save it in my file. :D Thank you as usual.
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Old 08-Aug-2004, 21:10
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Are you in seventh heaven? There are smileys all the way! :) :) :)

Engish is very interesting when I'm able to notice any slight changes that contrast meanings! I like your examples of 'past perfect.' and I'm going to save it in my file. :D Thank you as usual.
Seven of them, by coincidence! I just meant that all the sentences are correct. You're welcome.

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