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[Taka]

Yeh! Empty subject! That's the term I should have used here.

Unless it is a pronoun, "it" in "It is your turn to drive" is an empty subject, right?

And about the infinitive "to drive", it's adjective. Correct, tdol?

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By the way, I don't really understand this part of your comments:

I can see you case for distinguishing it because it does have a different function.

[Tdol]

errr, 'your case'.

I'll mull this 'infinitive as adjective' thing over a bit. My first reaction is negative, but let's see how I feel tonight.

[Taka]

errr, 'your case'.

OK. I understand.

I'll mull this 'infinitive as adjective' thing over a bit. My first reaction is negative, but let's see how I feel tonight.

At least, it's not the semantic subject , which means the infinitive is not used as a noun. Then...adverbial...??

Well, I'm looking forward to your reply. :wink:

[Tdol]

It is modifying the noun, but I don't see it as an adjectival modification. You could descrivbe 'your turn to drive' in its entirety as an adjectival complement, couldn't you?

[Taka]

It is modifying the noun, but I don't see it as an adjectival modification. You could descrivbe 'your turn to drive' in its entirety as an adjectival complement, couldn't you?

An infinitive modifying a noun but not adjectival???

Are you trying to redefine the concept of adjectival infinitive??

[Tdol]

It seems to be adding something more than an adjectival sense to me.

[Taka]

It seems to be adding something more than an adjectival sense to me.

Then what exactly is the function of adjetives besides its modification of nouns? And what is the "something" here??

[Tdol]

Given that it is not a single word, it is not an adjective, so its function is up for debate.

[Taka]

It is modifying the noun, but I don't see it as an adjectival modification.

It is your turn to study.

to study is an integral part of the phrase 'your turn'. :wink:

What is it that makes you teachers hesitant about simply calling it "an adjectival infinitive" here? It's just a "noun (one's turn)+to do" construction, isn't it?

[Taka]

Cas, that's not my point.

What I'm wondering about is this: as tdol says, the infinitive is modifying the noun "one's turn". But he argues that it is not an adjectival modification, and should be adding something more than an adjectival sense.

Modifying a noun, but still not adjectival...Then, what is it at all???

And you say it's an integral part of "one's turn"... Why can't you disintegrate it and simply take the infinitive as adjectival.

What an enigma... :?