the hole in the wall

blouen · #1 (**permalink**) 22-Feb-2008, 03:42

Orig: The hole in the wall had closed up.

Correction:

The hole in the wall had closed.

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The hole in the wall closed.

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The hole in the wall closed up.

Buddhaheart · #2 (**permalink**) 22-Feb-2008, 04:05

Orig: The hole in the wall had closed up.

Correction:

The hole in the wall had beenclosed. Unless the hole closed itself, the passive should be used.

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The hole in the wall was closed. See comment above.
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The hole in the wall closed up. I won’t recommend it.

blouen · #3 (**permalink**) 22-Feb-2008, 04:09

Yes, the hole in the wall closed by itself.

Therefore, which one is more appropriate:
The first sentence or the second one?

Buddhaheart · #4 (**permalink**) 22-Feb-2008, 04:19

In that case both are possible: (We noticed) the hole in the wall had closed (itself) since last year; the hole in the wall closed l(itself) last year.

blouen · #5 (**permalink**) 22-Feb-2008, 04:22

What's the difference then between the two? Wouldn't "had" be unnecessary then?


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