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Originally Posted by
Casiopea 
Originally Posted by
blacknomi If I were a student of yours in Japan, that would be fatastic! :wink:
Thanks/Thanx :D
Where are your students from?
From all walks of life. :D
From stinky kids to gray power. :D
Most of them are Taiwanese(Chinese, no political issue involved.) I've had several Korean and Japanese before. And I do find similiar pattern of learning English between them. :D
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Originally Posted by
blacknomi 
Originally Posted by
Casiopea 
Originally Posted by
blacknomi If I were a student of yours in Japan, that would be fatastic! :wink:
Thanks/Thanx :D
Where are your students from?
From all walks of life. :D
From stinky kids to gray power. :D
Most of them are Taiwanese(Chinese, no political issue involved.) I've had several Korean and Japanese before. And I do find similiar pattern of learning English between them. :D
I've also taught those groups. :D I'm curious as to the 'patterns of learning' you've notice. Do tell. :D
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Re: not only...but also

Originally Posted by
Casiopea 
Originally Posted by
blacknomi 1) Success not only depends on talent but also on effort. :(
2) Succcess depends not only on talent but also on effort. :D
We have to put preposition phrase after 'not only' if thre's any. In addition, either preposition that follows 'not only' and 'but also' cannot be omitted. Am I wrong?
not only...but also is a correlative conjunction. It joins words, phases, or clauses of equal rank.
Verb phrases
Success not only
depends on talent, but also
requires initiative.
Prepositional phrases
Success depends not only
on talent, but also
on effort.
Noun phrases
Not only
milk, but also
bread.
Clauses
Not only
does he do his best, but also
he does it correctly.
From Michael Swan
Mid-position with the verb is also possible. In this case, not only is generally used without do.
She not only plays the piano, but also violin.
1. I don't know what is mid-position. I need you badly.
2. She not only plays the piano, but also violin. Unequal rank. :?
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Re: not only...but also

Originally Posted by
blacknomi From Michael Swan
Mid-position with the verb is also possible. In this case, not only is generally used without do.
She not only plays the piano, but also violin.
1. I don't know what is mid-position. I need you badly.
2. She not only
plays the piano, but also
violin. Unequal rank. :?
Mid-sentence. :wink: "Not only..., but also" generally tends to occur sentence-intially. Swan points out that it can occur sentence-medially: in the middle of a sentence, in mid-position. :wink:
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Re: not only...but also

Originally Posted by
Casiopea 
Originally Posted by
blacknomi From Michael Swan
Mid-position with the verb is also possible. In this case, not only is generally used without do.
She not only plays the piano, but also violin.
1. I don't know what is mid-position. I need you badly.
2. She not only
plays the piano, but also
violin. Unequal rank. :?
Mid-sentence. :wink: "Not only..., but also" generally tends to occur sentence-intially. Swan points out that it can occur sentence-medially: in the middle of a sentence, in mid-position. :wink:
She not only plays the piano, but also violin.
Success not only depends on talent but also on effort.
You have mentioned it before that not only...but also... is a correlative conjunt that requires equal grammatical category. Remember? So how about those sentences listed above?
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Re: not only...but also

Originally Posted by
blacknomi She not only
plays the piano, but also
violin.
Success not only
depends on talent but also
on effort.
You mentioned before that
not only...but also... is a correlative conjunction that requires equal grammatical category. Remember? So how about those sentences listed above?

Good question. :up
1. Verb phrase + Verb phrase
plays the piano + (plays) the violin
=> The word (play) has been omitted. The reason being, redundancy.
The same distribution holds true for 2.
2. Verb phrase + Verb Phrase
depends on talent + (depends) on effort
=> The word (depends) has been omitted. :wink:
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I would say "she not only plays the piano, but also the violin".
FRC
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Redundancy! Sigh, I should have know that.
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Originally Posted by
Francois I would say "she not only plays the piano, but also the violin".
FRC
Good catch. 8)
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2. omitted 'but':
Not only did he do that, (but) he also did this.
I omit also.
Not only did he do that, but he did this.
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