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Please, teachers, could you tell me what are the differences between 'ask over' and 'ask round'.

If you don't mind, could you proofread all these sentences as well?

She ask me over for dinner.
She ask me round for lunch.
Everybody feel like asking her over for a walking.

It's still difficult to me to distiguish 'ask' from 'ask for':

I asked the waitress for the menu.
I asked for the menu to the waitress.
I asked for the menu.
I am asking so many questions.
I never ask for questions.

As far as I know, 'ask' and 'ask for' are pretty close in meaning. Am I right?

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Please, teachers, could you tell me what are the differences between 'ask over' and 'ask round'. Nothing substantially. Either can be used.

If you don't mind, could you proofread all these sentences as well?

She asked me over for dinner.
She asked me round for lunch.
Everybody feel like asking her over for a walking. We felt like asking her over to come on a walk.

It's still difficult to me to distiguish 'ask' from 'ask for':

I asked the waitress for the menu.
I asked for the menu to the waitress.from the waitress
I asked for the menu.
I am asking so many questions.
I never ask for questions. I never ask questions.

As far as I know, 'ask' and 'ask for' are pretty close in meaning. Am I right?
to ask for something means you are requesting a specific thing. To ask something indicates you are asking a question.

Thanks in advance
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Thank you Anglika.
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I never ask for questions. I never ask questions.
One more question:

I know that sentence is awkward, but whether someone, for example a teacher, says to his/her students:

I am at your service Ladies and Gentlemen, ask me questions about Great Britain, make questions on Shakespeare's life.

Is this sentence OK?

I guess it means the teacher is asking for questions (from the students), right?

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Thank you Anglika.

One more question:

I know that sentence is awkward, but whether someone, for example a teacher, says to his/her students:

I am at your service Ladies and Gentlemen, ask me questions=(put questions to me) about Great Britain, make questions on Shakespeare's life.

Is this sentence OK?

I guess it means the teacher is asking for questions (from the students), right?Yes, it is a request.

Many thanks
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If you don't mind, could you proofread all these sentences as well?


Everybody feel like asking her over for a walking.
I suspect that you meant what Anglika offered, Marcio, ie.

"We felt like asking her over to come on a walk."

But your example above first struck me as,

Hey everybody, [do you] feel like asking her over [to go] for a walk.
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I suspect that you meant what Anglika offered, Marcio, ie.
"We felt like asking her over to come on a walk."
But your example above first struck me as,

Hey everybody, [do you] feel like asking her over [to go] for a walk.
My "lack of vocabulary is killing me!

What do you mean by "struck me as"?

I suppose my example gave you a doubt.

anyway:

Everybody feel like asking her over for a walk.
Everybody/We felt like asking her over for a walk.

right?

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My "lack of vocabulary is killing me!

What do you mean by "struck me as"?

"hit me as having the meaning of ...".

strikes sb as - seems to indicate a meaning of ... to sb


I suppose my example gave you a doubt.

anyway:

Everybody feel like asking her over for a walk.
Everybody/We felt like asking her over for a walk.

right?

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Yup, they're fine.

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Yup, they're fine.
They are NEVER! Well, at least one of them.

Everybody feels like asking her over for a walk.
or
We (all) feel like asking her over for a walk.
or
Everybody feel like asking her over for a walk? (with ellipses of the operator does, and of course putting the question mark at the end!; intonation could do a lot as well)
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They are NEVER! Well, at least one of them.

Everybody feels like asking her over for a walk.
or
We (all) feel like asking her over for a walk.
or
Everybody feel like asking her over for a walk? (with ellipses of the operator does, and of course putting the question mark at the end!; intonation could do a lot as well)
I thought the this rule would be used when you are talking about the third person, right? Not just a word.

Everybody = all of us

All of us feel like asking her over for a walk.
Everybody feel file asing her over for a walk.

However, I just searched on the BRITISH NATIONAL CORPUS and I saw both of the sentences:

Everybody do ....
Everybody does ...

What could you teachers say about this?

Thank you very much.

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However, I just searched on the BRITISH NATIONAL CORPUS and I saw both of the sentences:

Everybody do ....
Everybody does ...

What could you teachers say about this?

Thank you very much.
I would say that using the BNC is perfect for language researchers, but only good for us, students. It contains loads of examples of written and spoken English that break the rules of grammar, but actually this is the language people speak, so for a learner like you and me this device may be too much to distinguish between the correct and the incorrect.
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