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Dear teachers,

Could you please kindly analyze the grammar of the following sentence:

When the bottle had been uncorked and the wine poured out, like sunlight I watched it go down.
The complete structure of the underlined part should be "and the wine had been poured out", which is predicate. My question is:
Since "had been " is omitted can I still say it is "predicate" ? If I can't then could you please explain what's the function of it?

Looking forward to hearing from you.
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When the bottle had been uncorked and the wine poured out, like sunlight I watched it go down.

Since "had been " is omitted can I still say it is "predicate" ?

to my mind "had been" has been omitted simply to avoid repetition,which is quite common usage.

Although used elliptically here , since consisting only of the past participle , "poured out" still is the second predicate of the subordinate clause.

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Dear beascarpetta,

Thank you very much for your explanation. Now I see.

Best wishes,

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When the bottle had been uncorked and the wine poured out, like sunlight I watched it go down.

Since "had been " is omitted can I still say it is "predicate" ?

to my mind "had been" has been omitted simply to avoid repetition,which is quite common usage.

Although used elliptically here , since consisting only of the past participle , "poured out" still is the second predicate of the subordinate clause.

hope this helps

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