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Is the following sentence grammatically correct?

"As experience revealed, the success of “Voluntary Service” relies on how positive teachers and parents are in guiding their pupils to participating in other learning experiences."

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"As experience revealed,(past tense) the success of “Voluntary Service” relied on how positive teachers and parents were in guiding their pupils to participate in other learning experiences."
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But with minor rephrasing, only one change is needed:

""As experience has revealed, the success of “Voluntary Service” relies on how positive teachers and parents are in guiding their pupils to participating in other learning experiences."
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But with minor rephrasing, only one change is needed:

""As experience has revealed, the success of “Voluntary Service” relies on how positive teachers and parents are in guiding their pupils to participating in other learning experiences."
Anglika, I would also like to know whether the "to" is an infinitive or preposition after the verb "guide", as I could not find such a sentence structure as "guide(verb) + to infinitive" in a dictionary? Thanks again.
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It's a preposition, and hence, the need for the change from the verb 'participate' to the verbal noun 'participating'
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It's a preposition, and hence, the need for the change from the verb 'participate' to the verbal noun 'participating'
Thanks, David. But could you explain why it is not a "to-infinitive"?
This is a problem area to me. Sometimes, I am not sure whether a "to-infinitive" or "to-gerund" should be used. By the way, do we have any online references for this?

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filling out the sentence, it becomes:

...how positive teachers and parents are in the guiding of their pupils towards the act of participating in other learning experiences."
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filling out the sentence, it becomes:

...how positive teachers and parents are in the guiding of their pupils towards the act of participating in other learning experiences."
What about "...how positive teachers and parents are in guiding their pupils to participate in other learning experiences"? Is this grammtically acceptable? Thanks again.
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We've gone full circle, and back to
'...but 'to' in that sentence is a preposition, not part of the verb 'to participate'. Look at these sentences:

Teachers instruct their pupils to behave properly.
that is, they give the order when necessary, Enough of that! Behave properly!
versus
Teachers instruct their pupils in behaving properly
that is, they give lessons in decorum, and the preposition 'in' takes a verbal noun.

Teachers guide their pupils - they lead them to something. 'Something' refers to some noun, and the preposition that goes with 'guide' and 'lead' is 'to'
Guide them to the light of Minerva. - 'light' is a noun
Guide them to participating in ... - 'participating' is a verbal noun

We would need to change the sentence to:
"...how positive teachers and parents are when they encourage their pupils to participate in other learning experiences."

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In other words, we guide/lead somebody to something/somewhere (noun phrase/gerund), whereas we encourage somebody to do (verb) something.
Am I right? Thanks, David.
P.S. To raise such a question, I have found so much such kind of error on the net.
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