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Old 25-Sep-2004, 12:07
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anything but, nothing less/more than, more often than not etc.
I would like to know ""why"" the following phrases have such meanings:
[I know it is difficult to explain though. It would be very grateful if you can try to explain]

- anything but (= definitely not)
-"everything but" (= definitely not)
Does "anything" mean "everything" here? But anything is used with not, like "I don't have anything". So it seems to mean nothing.
I know "But" here is served to mean an exception.

- no/nothing less than (=competely, exactly, surely)
- no/nothing more than (=only, just)
The above means "the same or more than something/that" and "not more than something/that" respectively and literally.
But I can't figure out why "the same or more than something/that" means the same as "completely/exactly/surely".
Why "not more than something/that" = "only/just"?


- more often than not (=meaning??)
I'm confused if the phrase the frequency of "more often than not" is any of the following:
- between "usually" and "often"
- over "usually"
- more or less the same as "usually"

And why does the above mean like that?
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Old 26-Sep-2004, 04:28
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anything but, nothing less/more than etc.
I would like to know why the following phrases have such meanings:
[Maybe it is difficult to explain though It would be very grateful if you can try to explain]

- anything but (= definitely not)
Does "anything" mean "everything" here? But anything is used with not, like "I don't have anything". So it seems to mean nothing.
I know "But" here is served to mean an exception.

- no/nothing less than (=competely, exactly, surely)
- no/nothing more than (=only, just)

- more often than not (=very usually)

Thanks a lot for your help.
anything but, with the exception of

Waiter: Are you ready to order?
Sam: No. Not yet. Could you give us a minute to decide?
Waiter: OK. By the way, I should let you know that you can have anything on the menu but, with the exception of, the pizza. That's not served until lunch time.

no/nothing less than (exactly the mark or more than the mark)
no/nothing more than (not over the mark)

more often than not (between never and usually; more than never, but not usually).

All the best, :D

All the best, :D
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Old 27-Sep-2004, 07:45
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anything but, with the exception of

Waiter: Are you ready to order?
Sam: No. Not yet. Could you give us a minute to decide?
Waiter: OK. By the way, I should let you know that you can have anything on the menu but, with the exception of, the pizza. That's not served until lunch time.
Understood! :D



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no/nothing less than (exactly the mark or more than the mark)
no/nothing more than (not over the mark)
Still couldn't get the idea.
I still can't figure out why "the same or more than something/that" means the same as "completely/exactly/surely".

Why "not more than something/that" = "only/just"?



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more often than not (between never and usually; more than never, but not usually).
So the word "not" here can be perceived as "never". So "having-something" is more often than "not-having-something". So at least the case of "having-something" is more than 50%.

According to Oxford Advanced Dictionary (4th edition), it means "very frequently". Now I'm confused if the phrase "more often than not" is any of the following:
- between "usually" and "often"
- over "usually"
- more or less the same as "usually"


Thanks a lot.
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Old 27-Sep-2004, 19:31
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Old 27-Sep-2004, 19:43
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If you don't mind, could you consider reducing your tagline? I begin to dream about acronyms

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Old 27-Sep-2004, 20:14
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If you don't mind, could you consider reducing your tagline? I begin to dream about acronyms

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Frankly speaking, I will feel sad if I clipped the tagline.
But if this inconvenience you (or any other), I don't mind t clip my tagline (even to none!)
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Old 28-Sep-2004, 11:12
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Frankly speaking, I will feel sad if I clipped the tagline.
But if this inconvenience you (or any other), I don't mind t clip my tagline (even to none!)
Why not try something shorter? What about this? :D
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Keep the tagline, but try not to fill too much vertical space- otherwise it makes scrolling down hard work.
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Ok.
See the shorten one.
Any further modification is possible (please tell me!)
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That's fine- very long signatures, especially where there are a lot can become an imposition. In some forums, most of the screen gets filled with huge sigs, leaving little room for content.
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