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10-Jul-2008, 03:51
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Adverbial phrase without an adverb! Is it possible? |
10-Jul-2008, 20:36
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I'm still waiting for any body to answer this!!! |
11-Jul-2008, 21:24
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 I'm so disappointed that I haven't any answer to my question so far. For the fourth time, I ask: how could this example: into the room ran the lady be seen as an adverbial phrase? Where is the adverb? |
11-Jul-2008, 22:08
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Originally Posted by Egyption Arrow  I'm so disappointed that I haven't any answer to my question so far. For the fourth time, I ask: how could this example: into the room ran the lady be seen as an adverbial phrase? Where is the adverb? | Here you be, EA, sorry for the delay. Quote:
Spotting adverbs
Adverbs are quite complicated. You cannot tell by the look of a word that it is an adverb. You can recognise it as an adverb only by the work it does in a sentence.
A word may be an adverb in one sentence and a different part of speech in another sentence.
More about spotting adverbs
Adverbial phrases
Adverbial phrases are small strings of words that do the same job as single-word adverbs:
'I'll see him on Saturday.'
'She's in the kitchen.'
''The thief ran down the road.'
'The mobile phones rang all at once.'
BBC - Skillswise Words - Making more interesting sentences with adverbs factsheet
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11-Jul-2008, 23:06
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I never read here you be before, isn't it here you are? |
11-Jul-2008, 23:31
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Originally Posted by Egyption Arrow I never read here you be before, isn't it here you are? | It's a rather archaic form, something you might here in a pirate movie, EA. |
11-Jul-2008, 23:41
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Originally Posted by Egyption Arrow I never read here you be before, isn't it here you are? |
(not a professional teacher) As riverkid said, it's an archaicism, now mostly used for effect, as in riberkid's pirate example, or in phrases such as "Here be dragons", a translation of the apocryphal cartographic inscription, hic sunt dracones. |
12-Jul-2008, 00:05
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It seems there is a lot of English I still need to learn. Thanks Riverkid, I wish I didn't bother you with my persistence on an answer to my question. I understand now that adverb could be latent in phrase. So, it needs one to get it indirectly.
Thanks Stuartnz, is using be this way grammatically right?
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12-Jul-2008, 00:11
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Originally Posted by Egyption Arrow It seems there is a lot of English I still need to learn. Thanks Riverkid, I wish I didn't bother you with my persistence on an answer to my questions. I understand now that adverb could be latent in phrase. it needs one to get it indirectly.
Thanks Stuartnz, is using be this way grammatically right?
| I'm not a professional teacher, but I would say that it is "not wrong". That is, in the appropriate context, used with an understanding of its now archaic nature and the effect that it generates, using be in this way is perfectly OK. However, it's a bit like an idiom, in that if it's used inappropriately or perhaps simply used too often, it would sound out of place and a little jarring. |
12-Jul-2008, 00:36
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I guess it is wrong, stuart. please have a look on infinitive: Definition and Much More from Answers.com, then tell me what did you conclude? | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes |  Linear Mode | 
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