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Old 08-Oct-2004, 03:43
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Are these correct? If not, why?

1. He has car obsession.
2. He has a car obsession.
3. He has car obsessions.
4. He has cars obsession.
5. He has cars obsessions.
6. She has foot fetish.
7. She has feet fetish.
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Use 2 and say 'she has a foot fetish'.
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Use 2 and say 'she has a foot fetish'.
Cute tdol. I can always count on you to brighten me day.
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Use 2 and say 'she has a foot fetish'.
So these are wrong?
1. He has car obsession. (This is wrong?)
2. He has car obsessions. (He loves car in general?)
3. He has a car obession. (What does this mean?)
4. He has cars obsession.
5. He has cars obsessions.
6. She has foot fetishes. (If this is wrong, why? I don't understand why it is wrong. Why can't it be plural?)

Are these correct? Does it matter if I put 'a' in there or not?
7. She has a foot fetish.
8. She has foot fetish.

What do these mean?

7. I bought a house.
8. I bought the house.
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1. He has car obsession. :(
"a car obsession" / "an obsession" (count noun)

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2. He has car obsessions. :D :(
Sounds odd because 'car' defines 'obsession' as specific, one, so 'obsessions' should be singular 'obsession' :( ; but, he could have more than one kind of obsession about cars. :D

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3. He has a car obsession. :D
Also, He has an obsession for cars.

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4. He has cars obsession. :(
5. He has cars obsessions. :(
'cars' functions as an adjective. Adjectives don't take plural -s.

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6. She has foot fetishes. :D :(
7. She has a foot fetish. :D
8. She has foot fetish. :(
Sentence 6. is similar to sentence 1.: she has more than one fetish about feet :D but 'car' defines 'fetishes' as specific, one, so 'fetishes' should be singular 'fetish'. :( In 8. 'fetish' is a singular count noun, so it requires a determiner "a foot fetish". Note tha, the adjective 'foot' is not modifies by "a". It just happenes to occur between the article and its noun. That is, both "a" and "foot" modify "fetish".

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7. I bought a house. :D
8. I bought the house. :D
I bought a house. (Non-specific. Not know to the reader/listener e.g. Pat: I bought a house. Max: What kind? Where? How much?)

I bought the house. (Specific. Known to the reader/listener e.g. Pat: I bought the house I told you about yesterday. Max: Wonderful. It's in a nice area and the price was right.)

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So this is wrong?

1. She has feet fetish.

Is it b/c of this explanation:
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5. He has cars obsessions.   


'cars' functions as an adjective. Adjectives don't take plural -s
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1. She has feet fetish. :D :(

Well, actually, it sounds odd at first glance given that the common phrase is "foot fetish". It's not common for 'feet' a plural noun to functions as an adjective, but it could be considered OK if 'feet fetish' refers to a fetish for different kinds of feet, say, non-human feet. But in that case, and since 'fetish' is a count noun, either 'a' or -s should be added,

EX: She has a feet fetish. (fetish for all kinds of feet)
EX: She has feet fetishes. (various kinds of fetishes for all kinds of feet)

But, again, 'feet fetish' is not the common form. It's a made up phrase.
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How come I can do it with 'feet fetish' but not with this:
1. He has cars obessions. (Why I can't do it here?)

Do I need 'a' here? Why?
2. With only $60 administration fee, you can get all that.
3. With only a $60 administration fee, you can get all that.

4. With only a $60 administration fee, you could get all that.
What does #3 and #4 mean?
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How come I can do it with 'feet fetish' but not with this:
1. He has cars obessions. (Why I can't do it here?)
Good question.
I don't know. :?

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2. With only $60 administration fee, you can get all that.
3. With only a $60 administration fee, you can get all that.
4. With only a $60 administration fee, you could get all that.
I'd add 'a' in 2.
In 4. 'could' is conditional e.g., You could get all that if you paid fee.
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