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04-Aug-2008, 15:33
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Originally Posted by IvanV  China? Boy, are you accommodated... They must treat you very well!  | Many Britons fuss about the possibility of China's eavedropping on them. I am Chinese. I'm afraid things are being exaggerated. It has been reported that all our computers are monitored by FBI. So how can you keep something secret in this world? By the way, we Chinese respect those who are friendly with us, but we show no respect to those who are hostile to us for no good reasons? I would like to remind you that you cannot force anyone to accept your biased view on something or someone. And please do not blur the distinction between the Chinese government and the Chinese people. We never do such stupid things. Think twice before launching a stupid attack on others. |
04-Aug-2008, 15:52
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Originally Posted by IvanV China? Boy, are you accommodated... They must treat you very well! | Why can't I see the offense here if there is any...
Can somebody explain it for me if they see/feel some?
Thanks! |
04-Aug-2008, 15:58
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Originally Posted by ohmyrichard Many Britons fuss about the possibility of China's eavedropping on them. I am Chinese. I'm afraid things are being exaggerated. It has been reported that all our computers are monitored by FBI. So how can you keep something secret in this world? By the way, we Chinese respect those who are friendly with us, but we show no respect to those who are hostile to us for no good reasons? I would like to remind you that you cannot force anyone to accept your biased view on something or someone. And please do not blur the distinction between the Chinese government and the Chinese people. We never do such stupid things. Think twice before launching a stupid attack on others. | And now hush down, as you blew past the meaning of my post!
And for further situations, I warn you to mind your language and keep your hasty opinion to yourself, and certainly to refrain from insulting - not just me, but anyone else.
I honestly have not the foggiest of where you've gotten the impression that I had anything against China, Chinese people, or their government. To be clear: my digression was referring to sports (Olympic Games, precisely).
My comment was addressed to Soup, and it was everything but an attack - either on him or on anyone else. It was, in that point of view, an innocuous joke, giving that Soup's country is Canada.
I also want you to note that it would be, at least polite, if not sane to ask someone whether you got them wright or wrong, and then start pinning the arguments.
Bewildered,
Ivan. |
04-Aug-2008, 16:02
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Originally Posted by okman chan Why can't I see the offense here if there is any... | To spare you the waiting - there's no offence. Interpretations, on the other hand, I have no influence on. |
04-Aug-2008, 16:30
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Originally Posted by IvanV And now hush down, as you blew past the meaning of my post!
And for further situations, I warn you to mind your language and keep your hasty opinion to yourself, and certainly to refrain from insulting - not just me, but anyone else.
I honestly have not the foggiest of where you've gotten the impression that I had anything against China, Chinese people, or their government. To be clear: my digression was referring to sports (Olympic Games, precisely).
My comment was addressed to Soup, and it was everything but an attack - either on him or on anyone else. It was, in that point of view, an innocuous joke, giving that Soup's country is Canada.
I also want you to note that it would be, at least polite, if not sane to ask someone whether you got them wright or wrong, and then start pinning the arguments.
Bewildered,
Ivan. | But now this post is intended for me. Soup's including "Go CHINA Go" plus the sign below his mild criticism of my view in that post was an act of great bravery, which I appreciated very much. Soup is a teacher of English teacher who has worked in China for some time. You may insist that you were referring to Olympics while asking "Are you accomodated?", assuming that Soup is going to be a spectator. But would you please clarify the meaning of "They must treat you very well"? I might have misunderstood you. If so, sorry for that. But please enlighten me about the meaning of that part. |
04-Aug-2008, 17:09
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Originally Posted by ohmyrichard But now this post is intended for me. Soup's including "Go CHINA Go" plus the sign below his mild criticism of my view in that post was an act of great bravery, which I appreciated very much. Soup is a teacher of English teacher who has worked in China for some time. You may insist that you were referring to Olympics while asking "Are you accomodated?", assuming that Soup is going to be a spectator. But would you please clarify the meaning of "They must treat you very well"? I might have misunderstood you. If so, sorry for that. But please enlighten me about the meaning of that part. | Let's just do this again. My post read: Quote:
Originally Posted by IvanV China? Boy, are you accommodated... They must treat you very well! | It was a digression on Soup's post that read: Quote:
Originally Posted by Soup Assumptions tend to do that. _____________________
Go CHINA Go!
<only 4 more days> | Cheering for China denotes some special closeness with the country, especially if it's related to the Olympics, and my noted digression had in nothing to do with Soup's intention, though I'd approve it in any case. Are you accommodated is followed by a slightly slangish intonation (say: Boy, are you well accommodated?!) that shouts, let's say, ''Atta girl!''. And why that? Because she's in a country that's not h er home, even though she might be calling it home, and rightfully: They treat her well - Chinese are incredibly good to h er, and it feels like home, so it probably feels right to call China home, hence cheer for China in Olympics.
So, definitely - my 'joke' was an utter opposite.
What a fuss about badly interpreted joke. 
Supporting Soup - Assumptions tend to do that.
I hope you got me right now. 
Sincerely,
Ivan.
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05-Aug-2008, 06:34
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Hi, I am not sending these kind of mails not for fun. Actually my first language is not English. My first language is malayalam. I think you haven't heard this language before. My real problem is I can uderstand english. But sometimes i didn't get the exact word or prepostion when i talk to some one or write someone. Thats why I keep sinding these kind of messages. I hope you can understand my situation. Also please give me some tips to improve my english. |
05-Aug-2008, 09:01
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kiranjyo, you're most welcome to post your questions! | | The Following User Says Thank You to IvanV For This Useful Post: | |
05-Aug-2008, 13:31
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I'm happy to see that you guys worked out your misunderstandings amicably. 
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Note on "assumptions", Soup is female.  |
05-Aug-2008, 13:33
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