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25-Aug-2008, 07:49
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| | As versus When Dear Teacher,
The following question is from a placement test and the answer is "When".
Would you please help me why "As" cannot be used? Thanks and regards. _____ he was walking down the street, he ran into Jane.
A) As
B) When | 
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| | Re: As versus When Quote:
Originally Posted by Honore Dear Teacher,
The following question is from a placement test and the answer is "When".
Would you please help me why "As" cannot be used? Thanks and regards. _____ he was walking down the street, he ran into Jane.
A) As
B) When | "As" can be used. In fact, I prefer it.
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26-Aug-2008, 07:27
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| | Re: As versus When Thanks for your reply. The answer (When) is not my choice but it is preferred by the test makers at the School of Languages of Sabanci University in Turkey. That's why I am confused. School of Languages
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26-Aug-2008, 08:59
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| | Re: As versus When Quote:
Originally Posted by Honore Thanks for your reply. The answer (When) is not my choice but it is preferred by the test makers at the School of Languages of Sabanci University in Turkey. | Yes, I understand that. "When" is also right.
We often get confused students here with similar questions about tests. (Not from Turkey though). The most likely possibility is that the question was written by a non-native speaker who doesn't realise that "As" is also correct (and in fact, better).
Other possibilities are typo, transcription error.
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26-Aug-2008, 09:06
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| | Re: As versus When They are stipulating 'when' because the second 'action' - he ran into Jane - does not happen during the same time period as the first : 'he was walking'. It is either the end of the time period (he stopped walking to talk to Jane) or an interruption to it. They are not coincident =occurring together in time.
"As she grew older, she kept more and more to herself." | | The Following User Says Thank You to David L. For This Useful Post: | | 
26-Aug-2008, 09:31
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| | Re: As versus When Quote:
Originally Posted by David L. They are stipulating 'when' because the second 'action' - he ran into Jane - does not happen during the same time period as the first' 'he was walking'. It is either the end of the time period (he stopped walking to talk to Jane) or an interruption to it. They are not coincident =occurring together in time.
"As she grew older, she kept more and more to herself." | If so, David, they are even more wrong. It actually does happen in the same time period (based on the information we have been given). You have admitted as much. If he stopped walking to talk to Jane, then he was still walking when he noticed her (ran into her). (If he had stopped walking before he ran into her, "When" would be wrong anyway.)
If "when" is correct, both i) walking down the street and ii) running into Jane, happen at the same time. That is, they are coincident. When he ran into Jane, he was walking down the street. If they occur at the same time, they necessarily occur during the same time period.
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26-Aug-2008, 09:42
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| | Re: As versus When walking..........................|stop/Jane|................maybe walking again
(happening before)^^^^^^action stops^^^^^^^action may continue
(............As.... grew.... older.............)
(........kept.... to.... herself.... more......) coincident occurrences | | The Following User Says Thank You to David L. For This Useful Post: | | 
26-Aug-2008, 10:07
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| | Re: As versus When Quote:
Originally Posted by David L. walking..........................|stop/Jane|................maybe walking again
(happening before)^^^^^^action stops^^^^^^^action may continue
(............As.... grew.... older.............)
(........kept.... to.... herself.... more......) coincident occurrences | Well, I'm glad we have that cleared up! | | The Following User Says Thank You to Raymott For This Useful Post: | | 
26-Aug-2008, 10:22
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| | Re: As versus When Dear Teachers, thank you two so much for the efforts to clarify the point. I'll notify the authorized person at that institution of that question, referring to the explanations made here.
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| | Re: As versus When ...and please ask them their 'authoritative' (as far as those taking the test are concerned!) reason. | | The Following User Says Thank You to David L. For This Useful Post: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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