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29-Aug-2008, 03:11
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Current Location: Taipei, Taiwan First Language: Mandarin, Taiwanese Member Type: Other | | "where" as a relative adverb Dear All:
What follows is quoted out from Ancient Amazon Actually Highly Urbanized: Scientific American
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But decades later, a city of sorts—actually a series of settlements connected by roads—has been found at the headwaters of the Xingu River where Fawcett went missing in an area previously buried beneath the dense foliage in what is now Xingu National Park.
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where = the Xingu River? or
= the headwaters of the Xingu River? or
= either of the above?
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29-Aug-2008, 03:34
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Originally Posted by outofdejavu Dear All:
What follows is quoted out from Ancient Amazon Actually Highly Urbanized: Scientific American
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But decades later, a city of sorts—actually a series of settlements connected by roads—has been found at the headwaters of the Xingu River where Fawcett went missing in an area previously buried beneath the dense foliage in what is now Xingu National Park.
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where = the Xingu River? or
= the headwaters of the Xingu River?  or
= either of the above? "the headwaters" is not the same as the river.
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29-Aug-2008, 03:46
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29-Aug-2008, 04:22
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Originally Posted by outofdejavu Is there no possibility of "where = the Xingu River"? | No possibility, because it is talking about " the headwaters of the Xingu River", not the Xingu River itself. | | The Following User Says Thank You to 2006 For This Useful Post: | | 
29-Aug-2008, 05:50
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29-Aug-2008, 21:34
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Originally Posted by topractise | The "whole passage" is just one sentence, albeit a rather long one.
Of course one, especially learners of English, should read the whole sentence even if you are just trying to understand one particular part of it.
But to answer outofdejavu's original question, the crucial part of the sentence is "has been found at the headwaters of the Xingu River where Fawcett went missing". | | The Following User Says Thank You to 2006 For This Useful Post: | | 
30-Aug-2008, 01:56
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Originally Posted by 2006 The "whole passage" is just one sentence, albeit a rather long one.
Of course one, especially learners of English, should read the whole sentence even if you are just trying to understand one particular part of it.
But to answer outofdejavu's original question, the crucial part of the sentence is "has been found at the headwaters of the Xingu River where Fawcett went missing". | Dear 2006
So......
you mean any sentence like "the xx of the oo where .......!#$%" has only one solution - something about xx, right?
If it is true,
can I also say that any sentence like "the xx of the oo which .......!#$%" has only one solution - something about xx?  | 
30-Aug-2008, 04:52
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Originally Posted by topractise Dear 2006
So......
you mean any sentence like "the xx of the oo where .......!#$%" has only one solution - something about xx, right?
If it is true,
can I also say that any sentence like "the xx of the oo which .......!#$%" has only one solution - something about xx?   | I am not sure I understand your question, especially the part about "has only one solution".
What I can say is that in a noun phrase like "the headwaters of the Xingu River", the headwaters is what is being talked about, not the Xingu River.
Is this what you are asking? | 
30-Aug-2008, 06:24
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Originally Posted by 2006 I am not sure I understand your question, especially the part about "has only one solution".
What I can say is that in a noun phrase like "the headwaters of the Xingu River", the headwaters is what is being talked about, not the Xingu River.
Is this what you are asking? | yes, I geuss I get it. "the headwaters of the Xingu River where....." that "where" modifies "the headwaters" but, how can I do if I want to use that "where" to modify "the Xingu River" ? 
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