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Old 02-Nov-2004, 18:02
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Announcements. ( But could be predictions as well.)


1. Could be either one, predictions or announcements. Minimal disruption is unpredictable and who knows if the sofrware has its own mind.
2. Announcements
3. Announcements


I hope it's not a prediction. <ggggggggggggggggg>





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I am agree with you, Blacknomi. Sometimes both were possible.
I would rather use "will" when both are possible

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Old 03-Nov-2004, 03:38
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Hello, X Mode,

Thanks for the detailed reply. I read over your last two sentences twice, and here's how I would think.

EX:I think I'll choose Boston. (possibility)
EX:I'll probably choose Boston. (possibility)
EX:I'll choose Boston. (certainty)


In this case, I wouldn't think that "will" indicates certainty because of the verb "I think" and the adverb "probably." Certainty applies when those hesitating words are left out in the context. But we always have to depend on the context to make a word choice.


EX:Well (with a rising tone), I'll just stay at home. (certainty)
EX:Well (with a robot tone), I'll just stay at home. (no hesitating words, but the robot tone implies 'maybe' or 'maybe not')




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I agree.


I'll choose Boston. - This could be an announcement or a spontaneous decision. It depends.

I think I might expect to hear something like this anway:

I've decided on Boston. I've chosen Boston. - announcement

I'll go with Boston. - spontaneous or seemingly spontaneous decision
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Old 03-Nov-2004, 03:43
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So that there will(1) be minimal disruption, everyone will(2) be able to log in as usual with their current member names and passwords, and all old messages and discussions will(3) have been imported into the new system.


1. Could be either one, predictions or announcements. Minimal disruption is unpredictable and who knows if the sofrware has its own mind.
2. Announcements
3. Announcements
Yes, but I would just add one more thing.

Number 2 and 3 could be thought of as certain predictions as well. (100% I guess - if we think we can quantify it)
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I am agree with you, Blacknomi. Sometimes both were possible.
I would rather use "will" when both are possible
Hi, Dany

I'm not glad that you are agree with me.
I agree with you that both are possible depending on the contexts we have.


You're welcome.


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Old 03-Nov-2004, 17:29
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Hi, Dany

I'm not glad that you are agree with me.
I agree with you that both are possible depending on the contexts we have.


You're welcome.


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Why can't I say are agree. Is this never used, or does it mean something else? I'm so sorry
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Nooooooooooooooo.


Hi, Dany,

No need to say sorry. Please take back your words. I was joking with you.


Because "agree" is a verb, so it's not proper to joint a verb and a BE-verb without changing its form.


I am agree. (Not Ok)
I am agreeing. (Ok grammatically, but I've never heard of it.)
I am dance. (Not OK)
I am dancing. ( Sounds good, and I love it!)



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Nooooooooooooooo.


Hi, Dany,

No need to say sorry. Please take back your words. I was joking with you.


Because "agree" is a verb, so it's not proper to joint a verb and a BE-verb without changing its form.


I am agree. (Not Ok)
I am agreeing. (Ok grammatically, but I've never heard of it.)
I am dance. (Not OK)
I am dancing. ( Sounds good, and I love it!)



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Oh, I understand
You are right. "I'm agreeing" I have also never heard. That's why I have not chosen the word. But I was sure, that I have to use "am". There are some differents, when I translate from the German to the English. In German I have to use "bin" (= am), without it, it doesn't take

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Why can't I say are agree. Is this never used, or does it mean something else? I'm so sorry
You are agree. (Not OK; too many verbs)

'are' is a verb and 'agree' is a verb, and there can be only one main verb per sentence, so delete 'are'.

I agree. (OK)
You agree (OK)
I am in agreement with you. (OK)
I agree with you. (OK)

I'm agreeing with you. (OK, but it is said as you are speaking; that is, there can't be a gap in time. It has to be said as you are speaking, so as to show a progressive/continuous action at the time of speaking).
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I'm agreeing with you. (OK, but it is said as you are speaking; that is, there can't be a gap in time. It has to be said as you are speaking, so as to show a progressive/continuous action at the time of speaking).

I've never thought that you have progressive agreeing in real life. When is the last time you said "I'm agreeing with you?" There's also no gap in time when I say "I agree with you."



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I've never thought that you have progressive agreeing in real life. When is the last time you said "I'm agreeing with you?" There's also no gap in time when I say "I agree with you."



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To me, if someone said, "I'm agreeing with you." it would be to emphasize agreement.

Y - What do you mean that's not right?!?!

Z - Hey, take it easy. You misunderstood what I said. I'm agreeing with you.

I'm agreeing with you. - At this moment in particular, I agree with you, and I really want to let you know that.

I think it would be more usual to say, "I agree with you." The progressive form would be used for emphasis.

Maybe taking a look at some of the Google examples will help you understand why someone would say, "I'm agreeing with you."

Do you have that thing set on Google that makes it so that you can highlight the words you searched for at a site? Do you know what I mean? You can find words easier that way.
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