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Old 11-Nov-2004, 08:36
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Default Day / Date

What do these mean?
1. What day is it tommorow? (Is this asking about the date? eg. Nov. 12th)
2. Is this asking about the date? What is 'the' referring to?)
3. What date is it tommorow? (It is thursday tommorow?)

4. It is on a monday.
5. It is on monday.
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Q: What day is it tomorrow? Note spelling, to+morrow
A: It's Friday.

EX: Is this asking about the date?
=> the is in reference to tomorrow's date

Q: What's the date tomorrow?
A: November 12th.

EX: It is on a Monday.
=> Any Monday

EX: It is on Monday.
=> Next Monday; The one that's coming up in four days.
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Cas: When is your birthday?
Nomi: My birthday is on November 13th (I'm giving a date).


Hehe Happy Birthday to myself.
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Default Re: Day / Date

What do these mean?
1. What day is it tomorrow? (Is this asking about the date? eg. Nov. 12th)
2. What date is it tomorrow? (Is it asking about if tommorow is a 'sunday, monday, tuesday, etc.?)
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Default Re: Day / Date

1. What day is it tomorrow? (Monday, Tuesday, etc.)
2. What date is it tomorrow? *ungrammatical
3. What's the date tomorrow? (Saturday, November 13th)
4. What's tomorrow's date? (Saturday, November 13th)

Distribution: Compound noun (Monday)
What day is it?
It is Monday.

Distribution: Noun (November 13th)
What is the date?
The date is November 13th.

Distribution: Adverb (in August/on August 19th)
When is your birthday?
My birthday is in August.
My birthday is on August 19th.
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What date is it tomorrow? *ungrammatical
Why is it umgrammatical? I'm totally shocked.
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1. What day is it tomorrow? (Monday, Tuesday, etc.)
2. What date is it tomorrow? *ungrammatical
3. What's the date tomorrow? (Saturday, November 13th)
Are these correct?
1. What is the day tommorow? (Is 'the' referring to tommorow's day?)
2. What is day tommorow? (How come when I take out 'the' the question is incorrect?)
3. What is a day tommorow? (How come this is incorrect with 'a'?)
4. What's the date tomorrow? (Why do I have to have 'the' here? I can't use 'a' or take out 'the' or use something else? Why is it incorrect if I take out 'the'?)

Are these correct? Do they mean the same thing?
5. What is the day tommorow?
6. What day is it tommorow?

For the question above, which one do I use? Do I use the second one when I have more then one pair of questions like that?
7. Do they mean the same thing?
8. Do they mean the same things? (What does the bold part mean?)

Is #10 incorrect? Because 'pair' is plural? Like 'I have a pair of shoes.'? But 'One' is in there?
9. One pair of questions like that?
10. One pair of question like that?

Quote:
2. What date is it tomorrow? *ungrammatical
How come it sounds okay? I still don't really understand why this sentence is not grammatical?

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Distribution: Compound noun (Monday)
Distribution: Noun (November 13th)
Distribution: Adverb (in August/on August 19th)

What do you mean by 'distribution'? For the 'adverb' one, do you mean 'in/on' is an adverb?)

For, 'What date is it tommorow.' Is it none of the three above? What is it then?

Quote:
It is Monday
Is 'monday' an adjective or a noun?

11. It is monday today. (Is it an adjective here?)

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Default Re: Day / Date

1. 'the' is specific: Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, etc.
2. 'day' is a count noun.
3. 'tomorrow' is specific.
4. 'tomorrow' is specific.
5. OK
6. OK
7. Do they mean the same thing? (They share one meaning)
8. Do they mean the same things? (They share more than one meaning)
9. A pair of _______ (plural noun)
10. Not OK
10a. 'date' does not require an adjective modifier (e.g., Mon+day, Tues+day)
10b. Distribution refers to how the words in a sentence are arranged.
10c. The phrases in August and on August 19th are prepositional in form and adverbial in function. The phrases are headed by a preposition, and the phrases answer the question, When?
11. It is Monday. "It" has two functions: (1) "It" stands for Today: Today is Monday. (2) "It" stands for nothing. It's an empty subject marker.

In English, every sentence must have a subject; if there isn't a subject, then a semantically empty pronoun, either "It" or "There", is added.

EX: There are two books on the table. (Semantically empty Subject)
EX: Two books are on the table. (Subject)

EX: It is Monday, today. (Semantically empty subject)
=> Monday is today. (Subject)
=> Today is Monday. (Subject)

In sum, "It" has two functions: (1) empty subject, or structural filler, and (2) pronoun. Below, "It" could be a pronoun or an empty subject:

EX: It is Monday. (Pronominal Subject: It = Today)
=> Today is Monday.
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Default Re: Day / Date

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2. What date is it tomorrow? *ungrammatical

'date' does not require an adjective modifier (e.g., Mon+day, Tues+day)

What do you mean it does not require an adjective modifier? What’s the ‘adjective’ modifier? I don’t see it.


Are these correct? What do these mean?
1. What do you mean it does not require an adjective modifier?
2. What do you mean by it does not require an adjective modifier?
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Default Re: Day / Date

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Originally Posted by blacknomi
Why is it umgrammatical? I'm totally shocked.
Question formation
(a)
Statement: November 14th is tomorrow's date.
WH-replacement: What is tomorrow's date?
(b)
Statement: November 14th is the date tomorrow.
WH-replacement: What is the date tomorrow?

Statement formation
Question: *What date is it tomorrow?
Inversion: *It is what date tomorrow?
Noun replacement: *It is November 14th date tomorrow.

For some speakers, the structure "What date" is similar to "What color":

What color is it? = Blue is it?
What date is it? = November 14th is it?

For my dialect, "What date" is incorrect:

*What date is it? = November 14th date is it?
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