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    Question what does these "of" stand for?

    Dear Mr Answer:
    look at these "of" please:

    1. I ask you.......
    2. I ask of you........
    1. think it......
    2. think of it......
    1. dream it.....
    2. dream of it......

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    1. I wonder what the differeces between Verb+of, and without of like the above groups.
    2. When should I plus "of"? when I should not do that?
    I'm waitting for answers online~
    Thanks~

    I would be pleased if sb can help me.thanks
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    I would be pleased if sb can help me.thanks

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    Hello, I tried to complete your sentences, so you could have an idea of the difference between them.

    1. I ask you (silly questions).
    2. A little understanding, it's all I ask of you and the kids.

    1. Think a good thought now. Think it!
    2. Look at my new dress. What do you think of it. (=What's your opinion about it?)

    1. I don't know if it was true or if I dreamed it.
    2. I saw a horrible film, and then at night I dreamed of it.
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    thx, and does anyone have reference on "of" in above situations?

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    Default Re: what does these "of" stand for?

    The "of" stands for another preposition, but more of obviously with "think" and "dream"; the 'of' in those sentences means 'about'.

    The case with "ask/ask of" is not so clear, as the "of" does more work - it stands for "for <something-to be-specified> from:

    I ask you where the cinema is
    I ask you for the whereabouts of the cinema.
    I ask of you a little patience.

    As Denis suggested, 'ask of' is usually reserved for morally positive abstract nouns - understanding, patience, sympathy, leniency, kindness, goodness.... One wouldn't normally say *'I ask of you the whereabouts of the cinema' or 'I ask of you a cupful of sugar'*. The less common (more extreme) words "beg" and "crave" behave like this too, although 'beg of' doesn't expect a following object:

    I beg you for mercy.
    I beg mercy of you.
    Mercy - I beg of you/I beg you/I beg! [The first of these three sounds better to me - probably because more words gives more scope for a pleading tone! ]

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    *...although sometimes this form does occur with concrete nouns - perhaps with the implication that there was some moral value attached (you're asking for the favour of a cupful of sugar - 'What a skinflint. All I asked of him was one measly cupful of sugar, and he told me to get lost'.)
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    "the 'of' in those sentences means 'about'. " that's what i want. thx Denis, Bobk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinji002 View Post
    "the 'of' in those sentences means 'about'. " that's what i want. thx Denis, Bobk.

    Not necessarily - I ask something of you could mean I ask you to do something or I ask for something from you.
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    Default Re: what does these "of" stand for?

    Quote Originally Posted by shinji002 View Post
    "the 'of' in those sentences means 'about'. " that's what i want. thx Denis, Bobk.
    Anglika's right - 'of' means 'about' in your dream and think examples, but not in your ask example.

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