Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 11
Like Tree1Likes

Thread: discontinuous noun phrase

  1. #1
    Fame's Avatar
    Fame is offline Member
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Student or Learner
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • Hong Kong
      • Current Location:
      • Hong Kong
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    212

    Default discontinuous noun phrase

    Could you please explain the term discontinuous noun phrase ?

    Can I say this sentence consist of a discontinuous noun phrase?

    The lawyer had a brief discussion about the legal fees.
    Last edited by Fame; 05-Jan-2009 at 03:07.

  2. #2
    competence is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    73
    Teacher

    Default Re: discontinuous noun phrase

    Quote Originally Posted by Fame View Post
    Could you please explain the term discontinuous noun phrase ?

    Can I say this sentence consist of a discontinuous noun phrase?

    The lawyer had a brief discussion about the legal fees.
    Hi Fame,

    You have a very technical question! As I'm sure you know, a noun phrase is made up of a noun and it's modifiers, and usually the words that compose the noun phrase are all continuous. However, occasionally we break the normal word order, often to bring some of the noun phrase to the end of a sentence, to add extra weight to that information. Usually what gets moved is a prepositional or participle phrase.

    For example:

    Continuous: Many problems involving software infected by a virus have been reported.
    Discontinuous: Many problems have been reported involving software infected by a virus.

    Continuous: Lawyers representing poor clients don't get rich
    Discontinuous: Lawyers don't get rich representing poor clients

    What do you think? Is The lawyer had a brief discussion about the legal fees discontinuous?

    I hope that helps.

    Matthew Balson
    Competence home
    Fame likes this.

  3. #3
    Fame's Avatar
    Fame is offline Member
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Student or Learner
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • Hong Kong
      • Current Location:
      • Hong Kong
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    212
    Threadstarter / Original Poster

    Default Re: discontinuous noun phrase

    Quote Originally Posted by competence View Post
    Hi Fame,

    You have a very technical question! As I'm sure you know, a noun phrase is made up of a noun and it's modifiers, and usually the words that compose the noun phrase are all continuous. However, occasionally we break the normal word order, often to bring some of the noun phrase to the end of a sentence, to add extra weight to that information. Usually what gets moved is a prepositional or participle phrase.

    For example:

    Continuous: Many problems involving software infected by a virus have been reported.
    Discontinuous: Many problems have been reported involving software infected by a virus.

    Continuous: Lawyers representing poor clients don't get rich
    Discontinuous: Lawyers don't get rich representing poor clients

    What do you think? Is The lawyer had a brief discussion about the legal fees discontinuous?

    I hope that helps.

    Matthew Balson
    Competence home
    Dear Matthew,

    Thanks for yor reply. According to my understand and your definition, I thing it is correct to say:

    The lawyer had a brief discussion about the legal fees

    since the preposition phrase about the legal fees is at the back of the sentence.

  4. #4
    RonBee's Avatar
    RonBee is offline Moderator
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Other
      • Native Language:
      • American English
      • Home Country:
      • United States
      • Current Location:
      • United States
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    16,541

    Default Re: discontinuous noun phrase

    Quote Originally Posted by competence View Post
    As I'm sure you know, a noun phrase is made up of a noun and its modifiers,

  5. #5
    Fame's Avatar
    Fame is offline Member
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Student or Learner
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • Hong Kong
      • Current Location:
      • Hong Kong
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    212
    Threadstarter / Original Poster

    Default Re: discontinuous noun phrase

    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee View Post

  6. #6
    RonBee's Avatar
    RonBee is offline Moderator
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Other
      • Native Language:
      • American English
      • Home Country:
      • United States
      • Current Location:
      • United States
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    16,541

    Default Re: discontinuous noun phrase


  7. #7
    Fame's Avatar
    Fame is offline Member
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Student or Learner
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • Hong Kong
      • Current Location:
      • Hong Kong
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    212
    Threadstarter / Original Poster

    Default Re: discontinuous noun phrase

    I'm confused. I don't understand.

  8. #8
    RonBee's Avatar
    RonBee is offline Moderator
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Other
      • Native Language:
      • American English
      • Home Country:
      • United States
      • Current Location:
      • United States
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    16,541

    Default Re: discontinuous noun phrase

    it's = it is
    its = belonging to it




  9. #9
    sio
    sio is offline Junior Member
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Student or Learner
      • Native Language:
      • Chinese
      • Home Country:
      • China
      • Current Location:
      • China
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    96

    Question Re: discontinuous noun phrase

    Sir,

    What is participle phrase (I refer to Competence's response) ? Thank you.

  10. #10
    RonBee's Avatar
    RonBee is offline Moderator
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Other
      • Native Language:
      • American English
      • Home Country:
      • United States
      • Current Location:
      • United States
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    16,541

    Default Re: discontinuous noun phrase

    Quote Originally Posted by sio View Post
    Sir,

    What is participle phrase (I refer to Competence's response)?
    Participle Phrases
    How to Use Participle Phrases as Modifiers | eHow.com
    Participle Phrase Recognition Practice


Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. what is a noun phrase shift and a heavy noun phrase shift?
    By britt_vanessa in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 30-May-2010, 15:23
  2. Head words of noun phrase
    By stella1977 in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 25-Jul-2008, 11:57
  3. Adverbial Phrase, Noun Phrase, Verb Phrase
    By novi_83 in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 29-Jun-2008, 17:46
  4. next, after
    By Nefertiti in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 39
    Last Post: 17-Sep-2007, 09:50
  5. Prepositional-Participal-Gerund-Infinitive Phrases
    By raelynn in forum General Language Discussions
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 04-Dec-2003, 18:33

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0