question about ['ve got] and [got]

[BobK]

Originally Posted by bouji

Thank you for all the answers and advice.
I am an English learner and only asking a simple English-related question.
I have no intension of degrading the English language.

Don't worry. 'Degrading' isn't the issue; it's 'normal wear and tear' that various linguists - like Deutscher, in the book that David L mentioned - are talking about.

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[Philly]

Originally Posted by David L.

I'm merely observing the Destructive Process in language change that has led to 'you got some guts, man' being a style of speech, and the actual intended words in individuals from a particular social stratum. In this instance, it is not a 'mishearing' but the complete absence of any intent, or even knowledge of the correct grammatical form to utter.

As I read this thread, I couldn't help but think of a wonderfully "destructive" old song:
I Got Rhythm

I've heard a rumor that there was once a time in Britain when school children were taught that using "have got" instead of "have" was grammatically incorrect. Is that (still) true?

Change is often difficult, and some changes are harder to swallow than others. But you gotta admit one thing:
Without change the English language would be dead.

Change. Who could ask for anything more?