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05-Jul-2009, 11:58
| | Member | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Country: France
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Current Location: Normandie First Language: French Member Type: Student or Learner | | Who and Whom Hello, I am 'The French',
I would like to know, if the relative pronoun whom, is often used in writting and speaking English.
I ask this question, because someone told me that 'whom' is only used for object or after preposition, and nowadays nobody use it.
People prefer to replace it by 'who'.
Thanks for your collaboration, and sorry for my mistakes (I'm a beginner), don't hesitate to correct me (no trouble).
Have a great day.
The French. | 
05-Jul-2009, 12:02
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Current Location: Jelenia Gora, Poland First Language: Polish Member Type: Other | | Re: Who and Whom Quote:
Originally Posted by The French Hello, I am 'The French',
I would like to know, if the relative pronoun whom, is often used in writting and speaking English.
I ask this question, because someone told me that 'whom' is only used for object or after preposition, and nowadays nobody use it.
People prefer to replace it by 'who'.
Thanks for your collaboration, and sorry for my mistakes (I'm a beginner), don't hesitate to correct me (no trouble).
Have a great day.
The French. | Let me put it this way - whom is alive and kicking, especially in writing, and obviously obligatory in prepositional phrases. | 
05-Jul-2009, 13:00
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Current Location: Ciudad Real First Language: Spanish Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: Who and Whom hello!!
You are right when you say that people prefer to use who rather than whom. It is more used in writing English and obligatory in prepositional phrases. And your English is quite good! | | The Following User Says Thank You to reichel49 For This Useful Post: | | 
05-Jul-2009, 14:57
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Current Location: Normandie First Language: French Member Type: Student or Learner | | Re: Who and Whom Hello, engee30,
what do you mean by kicking?
I have a little trouble to understand the edn of your sentence. I know kick someone but I think you don't mean that.
Very special use of this word, can you send me a short explanation.
Thank. | 
05-Jul-2009, 16:11
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Current Location: South Korea First Language: Malay Member Type: Student or Learner | | Re: Who and Whom Quote:
Originally Posted by The French Hello, engee30,
what do you mean by kicking?
I have a little trouble (difficulty) in understanding the end of your sentence. I know how to 'kick' someone but I think you don't mean tha (I don't think that you meant it that way). Very special use of this word (Is there any special usage of this word), can you send me a short explanation.
Thanks. | He used an idiom there... Actually it means the pronoun 'whom' is actively being used in formal situations. And it's better to use 'whom' in formal writings instead of daily communications...
PS: I am not a native speaker, but since you'd requested for corrections, I tried my best to correct your sentences.  Bonjour. Enchanté de vous rencontrer
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05-Jul-2009, 17:23
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Current Location: Jelenia Gora, Poland First Language: Polish Member Type: Other | | Re: Who and Whom Quote:
Originally Posted by Eden Darien He used an idiom there... Actually it means the pronoun 'whom' is actively being used in formal situations. | Yep, that's what I meant. | 
05-Jul-2009, 18:14
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Current Location: UK First Language: British English Member Type: Other | | Re: Who and Whom I have a little trouble (difficulties) to understand at the end of your sentence. I know how to kick someone but I think you don't mean that (I don't think so that you meant it that way).
I have a little trouble/difficulty in understanding at the end of your sentence. I know how to 'kick' someone, but I don't think you mean that (I don't think so that you meant/mean** it that way).
** both the Past and Present Simple possible.
Anyone want to say why? | 
05-Jul-2009, 18:21
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Current Location: Jelenia Gora, Poland First Language: Polish Member Type: Other | | Re: Who and Whom Quote:
Originally Posted by David L. [COLOR="Red"] (I don't think so that you meant/mean** it that way).
** both the Past and Present Simple possible.
Anyone want to say why? | I don't think that you meant it that way - referring back to what was said or written in that particular post. I don't think that you mean it that way - referring to the author of the post's way of thinking, which is seen as timeless. | 
05-Jul-2009, 20:05
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Current Location: algeria First Language: arabic and french Member Type: Student or Learner | | Re: Who and Whom Re: Who and Whom
I have a little DIFFICULTIES to understand THE end of your sentence. I know THE MEANING OF kickING someone but I DON4T THINK THAT YOU MEAN SO§
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guys pls tell me how to add a new theard? | 
05-Jul-2009, 20:52
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Current Location: Jelenia Gora, Poland First Language: Polish Member Type: Other | | Re: Who and Whom Quote:
Originally Posted by julianna guys pls tell me how to add a new theard? | STEP 1: Click on 'Ask a Teacher...' (top left corner, below Get Help!)
STEP 2: Give a title to your thread and pose your question in the text-box below the title.
STEP 3: Click on 'Submit New Thread' (just beneath the text-box).
Well done! Your thread has just been opened.
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