PLEASE diagram "that"

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"Tom did the best that he could."

(1) Would you please Reed-Kellogg that sentence?

(2) In that particular sentence, what part of speech is "that"?

Thank you VERY much.
 

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Did is a transitive verb whose direct object is the best. So that refers to a noun phrase, and should be an adjective. In such sentences, that can’t be defined lexically; but functionally, it shows a type of something.
 

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"Tom did the best that he could."

(1) Would you please Reed-Kellogg that sentence?

(2) In that particular sentence, what part of speech is "that"?

(1) What's Reed-Kellogg??? :oops:

(2) Chester_100 is correct that the best is the direct object of did. However, that does have a lexical definition: it's a relative pronoun. In this case, it's a relative pronoun introducing an adjective clause; the adjective clause that he could modifies the object (noun phrase) the best.
 

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(1) What's Reed-Kellogg??? :oops:

(2) Chester_100 is correct that the best is the direct object of did. However, that does have a lexical definition: it's a relative pronoun. In this case, it's a relative pronoun introducing an adjective clause; the adjective clause that he could modifies the object (noun phrase) the best.

Yes, but it's a functional morpheme. such morphemes cannot be defined as lexical elements. For example, we can define car, book, love, thirst, and other lexical morphemes, but there is no way to define functional ones (to give a classical definition of the word). Instead, we need to describe their fuction(s) as you have done it.
By the way, functions of that are partially different from those of relative pronouns. And, that usage is categorized as an adjective in some dictionaries.
 

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Dear Chester, Frank, and Mayita (alphabetical order!!!),

Wow! I did not expect so many great replies.

I shall study your answers very carefully. You three have taught me a lot.

The status of "that" in such a sentence is really confusing to ordinary people like me.

Mayita, you should consider Reed-Kellogg. An example is the diagram that Frank was kind enough to draw for me. It gives me a "picture" of the sentence. Frank is an expert in this matter.

Thanks again SO much. It's 2 a. m. now, and you all have really given me an intellectual feast of a breakfast.
 

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Thanks, Parser.

The word "that" can be one of four sentence parts -- a function word, a relative pronoun, a demonstrative adjective, or a demonstrative pronoun.

In a sentence like
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You have all four in the same order as above.
 

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Thanks, Parser.

The word "that" can be one of four sentence parts -- a function word, a relative pronoun, a demonstrative adjective, or a demonstrative pronoun.

In a sentence like
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You have all four in the same order as above.


Thanks for the GREAT expanded answer regarding "that."

Viva Reed-Kellogg!
 

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Yes, but it's a functional morpheme. such morphemes cannot be defined as lexical elements.

Holy moly! (Or, Oh my gatos!, as my students might say.) It's been a VERY long time since I took my linguistics courses, but even then I don't know if I ever learned this distinction. (I also vaguely remember those sentence diagrams, but I never knew them by the name Reed-Kellogg; I remember thinking they were pretty fun though. What a geek...) :cool:

As has TheParser, I've learned a lot from this thread! Thanks! :up:
 

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YES! They were, and are, fun!

Frank
 
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