the vowel sound in yawn

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Hi
I'm student from algeria
I'm learning americainenglish alone
I've download prounication course(jennifer ESL).
Please in this course she said that vowel sound in yawn is short and she said that is the sound ɔ,but in cambridge diconnary i saw that is the sound ɑː
and it is long sound
so please how do you spell yawn in IPA in americain english

thank you

 

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Hi
I'm student from algeria
I'm learning americainenglish alone
I've download prounication course(jennifer ESL).
Please in this course she said that vowel sound in yawn is short and she said that is the sound ɔ,but in cambridge diconnary i saw that is the sound ɑː
and it is long sound
so please how do you spell yawn in IPA in americain english

thank you

To me, the vowel sound in 'yawn' in AmE is long.
Cambridge gives:
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/jɔn/ v
yawn v - definition in American English Dictionary - Cambridge Dictionary Online

 

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hi thank you
but please in cambridge prounication diconnary there is two prounication in americain english
ːn and jɑːn
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hi thank you
but please in cambridge prounication diconnary there is two prounication in americain english
ːn and jɑːn
thank you
I guess you know that there are many different accents in American English.
I would add /jɒ:n/, but perhaps that's what Cambridge is signifying by /jɑːn/.
 

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There's a thing in the US called caught-cot merger. People with this merger (about half of Americans) say words like caught and cot or yawn and yacht with the same vowel.

This vowel is usually /ɑ
ː/, but it can also be /ɒː/ (usually in the West) or /äː/ (usually in the Northeast). /ɔː/ is used only in non-merged speakers, especially in the North and Northeast.

As far as length goes, it usually is long before voiced consonants and shorter before voiceless consonants.
 

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There's a thing in the US called caught-cot merger. People with this merger (about half of Americans) say words like caught and cot or yawn and yacht with the same vowel.

This vowel is usually /ɑ
ː/, but it can also be /ɒː/ (usually in the West) or /äː/ (usually in the Northeast). /ɔː/ is used only in non-merged speakers, especially in the North and Northeast.

As far as length goes, it usually is long before voiced consonants and shorter before voiceless consonants.

This is presumably related to something I noticed in the pronunciation of Paul Simon (in the '60s when I noticed it, though he still does it) in the song Flowers Never Bend with th Rainfall: in the verse that starts
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It don't matter if you're born 
To play the king or pawn
the rhyme was imperfect.

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This is presumably related to something I noticed in the pronunciation of Paul Simon (in the '60s when I noticed it, though he still does it) in the song Flowers Never Bend with th Rainfall: in the verse that starts

Just listened to the song, you're right. Born has /ɔr/, pawn has something like /ɒ/.
 
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