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    Hi:
    I am learning English grammar, but I am confused. Is it possible for an expert out there to check my answers. The conditional forms are not my strongest area, Using the structure below, I hope I have work them out correct..please correct
    PRESENT CONDITIONAL = IF + PRESENT / PRESENT
    1st CONDITIONAL = IF + PRESENT / FUTURE
    2nd CONDITIONAL = IF + PAST / WOULD + INFINATE
    3rd CONDITIONAL = IF + PAST PERFECT / WOULD + HAVE + PAST PARTICLE
    1) If I knew where he lived, I'd visit him (2nd Conditional)
    2) If you heat water to 100o Celsius, it boils (1st Conditional)
    3) If I hadn't picked up Martins wallet, he would be in dire straits now (2nd Conditional )
    4) If you go out alone at night, you will get into trouble (1st Conditional)
    5) If you had studied Spanish last year, you would have been fluent by now (3rd Conditional)
    6) If I eat chocolateall the time, I get fat (Present Conditional)
    7) If I were you. I'd buy the red dress (2nd Conditional)
    8) What would you have done, if your girlfriend told you she had got a new boyfriend. (3rd Conditional)
    9) If she had looked where she was going, she wouldn't have had an accident (3rd Conditional)
    10) If you come to the party tonight, you'll meet Tom (1st Conditional)
    11) If you build it, he will come (1st Conditional)
    12) If I were you, I wouldn't touch that (2nd Conditional)
    13) If you stroke cats, they purr (Present Conditional)
    14) If James wanted to go to Iceland, he would have booked a flight by now (3rd Conditional)
    15) If you spank children, they cry (Present Conditional)
    16) If only you had continued playing the piano, you would be an amazing player by now (3rd Conditional)
    17) If you are nice to people, they are nice back (1st Conditional)
    18) If I spoke nicely to you, would you talk to me ? (2nd Conditional)
    19) We'll go to the cinema, If the weathers bad (1st Conditional)
    20) If I won a million pounds, I'd pay off my debts and go on holiday (2nd Conditional)
    21) Had I had more courage, I would have tried to speak to the beautiful girl (3rd Conditional)
    22) If Martin comes, we'll pretend we're not here (1st Conditional)
    23) What would you do, if you suddenly became blind ? (2nd Conditional)
    24) If I had had more energy, I would have finished the race (3rd Conditional)
    25) I would own my own house today, if I hadn't foolishly given the other one away (3rd Conditional)

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanbayana View Post
    Hi:
    I am learning English grammar, but I am confused. Is it possible for an expert out there to check my answers. The conditional forms are not my strongest area, Using the structure below, I hope I have work them out correct..please correct
    PRESENT CONDITIONAL = IF + PRESENT / PRESENT
    1st CONDITIONAL = IF + PRESENT / FUTURE
    2nd CONDITIONAL = IF + PAST / WOULD + INFINATE
    3rd CONDITIONAL = IF + PAST PERFECT / WOULD + HAVE + PAST PARTICiPLE
    1) If I knew where he lived, I'd visit him (second Conditional)
    2) If you heat water to 100o Celsius, it boils (1st Conditional) Present Conditional or Zero Conditional ( another name for this Conditional)
    3) If I hadn't picked up Martins wallet, he would have been be in dire straits now (2nd Conditional )
    4) If you go out alone at night, you will get into trouble (1st Conditional)
    5) If you had studied Spanish last year, you would have been fluent by now (3rd Conditional)
    6) If I eat chocolateall the time, I get fat (Present Conditional)
    7) If I were you. I'd buy the red dress (2nd Conditional)
    8) What would you have done, if your girlfriend told you she had got a new boyfriend. (3rd Conditional)
    9) If she had looked where she was going, she wouldn't have had an accident (3rd Conditional)
    10) If you come to the party tonight, you'll meet Tom (1st Conditional)
    11) If you build it, he will come (1st Conditional)
    12) If I were you, I wouldn't touch that (2nd Conditional)
    13) If you stroke cats, they purr (Present Conditional)
    14) If James wanted to go to Iceland, he would have booked a flight by now (3rd Conditional)
    15) When it is better If you spank children, they cry (Present Conditional)
    16) If only you had continued playing the piano, you would have been be an amazing player by now (3rd Conditional)
    17) When would be better( If) you are nice to people, they are nice back (Present Conditional) or If you are polite to people, they will be polite too (1st Conditional)
    18) If I spoke nicely to you, would you talk to me ? (2nd Conditional)
    19) We'll go to the cinema, If the weather 's bad (1st Conditional)
    20) If I had won a million pounds, I would have payed off my debts and go on holiday (3nd Conditional)
    21) Had I had more courage, I would have tried to speak to the beautiful girl (3rd Conditional)
    22) If Martin comes, we'll pretend we're not here (1st Conditional)
    23) What would you do, if you suddenly became blind ? (2nd Conditional)
    24) If I had had more energy, I would have finished the race (3rd Conditional)
    25) I would have owned my own house today, if I hadn't foolishly given the other one away (3rd Conditional)
    A piece of advice ; try to understand why you use the Present, 2nd/etc Conditional, what are implying,after the sentence ends.

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    Re: HEEEEEELP..The conditional Forms

    Thank you very much. I take it that nearly all of my answers were correct

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    Re: HEEEEEELP..The conditional Forms

    I don’t like this sentence:
    1) If I knew where he lived, I'd visit him (second Conditional)
    I’d use third conditional here:
    'If I had known where he lived, I would have visited him.'

    The second conditional refers to present or future time.
    e.g.: We haven’t got a good map. We’re lost.
    'If we had a good map, we wouldn’t be lost.'

    I don't know the answer. I can't tell you.
    'If I knew the answer, I would tell you.'

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    Re: HEEEEEELP..The conditional Forms

    Quote Originally Posted by mara_ce View Post
    I don’t like this sentence:
    1) If I knew where he lived, I'd visit him (second Conditional)
    I’d use third conditional here:
    'If I had known where he lived, I would have visited him.'

    The second conditional refers to present or future time.
    e.g.: We haven’t got a good map. We’re lost.
    'If we had a good map, we wouldn’t be lost.'

    I don't know the answer. I can't tell you.
    'If I knew the answer, I would tell you.'
    What is wrong with "If I knew where he lived, I'd visit him"? (apart from the horrible contraction 'I'd')

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    Re: HEEEEEELP..The conditional Forms

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    What is wrong with "If I knew where he lived, I'd visit him"? (apart from the horrible contraction 'I'd')
    Well, in my opinion, ‘he lived’ refers to the past. I know that the second conditional is hypothetical but how I can think of visiting him if he doesn’t live there anymore.

    If I translate the sentence to my first language, it sounds wrong. But if I use third conditional which refers to the past, it sounds perfect.

    I would accept this sentence as second conditional:
    If I knew where he lives, I would visit him. (I don’t know where he lives = present)
    Last edited by mara_ce; 21-Aug-2009 at 21:47.

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    Re: HEEEEEELP..The conditional Forms

    Quote Originally Posted by mara_ce View Post
    Well, in my opinion, ‘he lived’ refers to the past.
    No, it's the subjunctive form of the present. It means "If I knew where he lives, I'd visit him" But we use the past tense form as a subjunctive.

    If I translate the sentence to my first language, it sounds wrong.
    How would you write it in Spanish? Is 'lived' a subjunctive? If so, then it's the same as in English.

    I would accept this sentence as second conditional:
    If I knew where he lives, I would visit him. (I don’t know where he lives = present)
    Yes, that's what it means, but that's not how it's said. The subjunctive of 'lives' is 'lived'.
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    Re: HEEEEEELP..The conditional Forms

    I am not sure it's really a subjunctive, but you are surely right that it has a rather hypothetical type function. Specifically, I feel it's just a past tense in temporal accord with "I knew" which is a past tense analogous to the past imperfect used in almost all Indo-European languages for a condition (NB not conditional)... If I had, If we knew, If they were...

    But overall, I agree with the type of information given the OP.

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