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    Default Re: Pronounce the word NEWS as new-s or new-z?

    I've re-read the whole thread, and I think it's clear we are dealing with the s/z pronunciation of final S plurals as in news, rather than the phonetic value of S wherever and whenever it is seen. Therefore, his rule is correct, though it could use being rephrased more clearly to describe final s on words that exist both with and without it.

    The lose/loose dichotomy has nothing to do with the 'final s' variants the thread has been about since the beginning. Anumph just assumed it was clear we were talking about final s while typing the rule the first time.

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    Default Re: Pronounce the word NEWS as new-s or new-z?

    Quote Originally Posted by konungursvia View Post
    I've re-read the whole thread, and I think it's clear we are dealing with the s/z pronunciation of final S plurals as in news, rather than the phonetic value of S wherever and whenever it is seen. Therefore, his rule is correct, though it could use being rephrased more clearly to describe final s on words that exist both with and without it.

    The lose/loose dichotomy has nothing to do with the 'final s' variants the thread has been about since the beginning. Anumph just assumed it was clear we were talking about final s while typing the rule the first time.
    gas, bus ...
    For the sake of learners, an /s/ preceded by a vowel sound at the end of a word is not always /z/, even though the vowel is voiced.

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    Default Re: Pronounce the word NEWS as new-s or new-z?

    Again, we are dealing with plural final S, and 3rd person singular final S.... if the word exists both with and without the S, then the rule stated above does accurately tell us its pronunciation.

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    Default Re: Pronounce the word NEWS as new-s or new-z?

    Quote Originally Posted by konungursvia View Post
    Again, we are dealing with plural final S, and 3rd person singular final S.... if the word exists both with and without the S, then the rule stated above does accurately tell us its pronunciation.
    OK, I can accept that as a correct amendment of the rule.

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