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    Default Re: Possessive before a gerund question.

    I have no ellipsiphobia.

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    Default Re: Possessive before a gerund question.

    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    The first could also be modifying a gerund, as many people don't follow the rule of using a possessive to do so, but the seond couldn't carry the disliking idea.
    It could indeed, but in my original post the question gives the context ("a teacher dislikes someone"), right?

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    Default Re: Possessive before a gerund question.

    Defintely- I was just making an observation about the gerund rule, which is so widely ignored.

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    Default Re: Possessive before a gerund question.

    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    Defintely- I was just making an observation about the gerund rule, which is so widely ignored.
    Yes. Some say it is extinct.

    How about this:

    "I was awakened by the wolves howling." is the same as ...

    "I was awakened by the howling of the wolves."
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    "I was awakened by the wolves howling." is the same as ...

    "I was awakened by the wolves which were howling."

    Same as before?

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