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    Default 1st, 2nd, 3rd conditional and beyonndddd!!

    Would you say that any of these are not well-formed conditional sentences?

    If he would come, Id ask him.
    If hell come, Ill ask him.
    If hes come, Ill ask him.
    If hes going to come, Id ask him.
    If he could come, Id ask him.
    If he can come, Ill ask him.
    If he might come, Id ask him.
    If he comes, Im going to ask him.
    If we hadnt been going to ask him, he wouldnt have been invited.
    If he hadnt been invited by us, he wasnt going to get an invitation at all.

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    Default Re: 1st, 2nd, 3rd conditional and beyonndddd!!

    If hes going to come, Id ask him.

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    Default Re: 1st, 2nd, 3rd conditional and beyonndddd!!

    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    If hes going to come, Id ask him.
    How so?

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    Default Re: 1st, 2nd, 3rd conditional and beyonndddd!!

    I'll ask him

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    Default Re: 1st, 2nd, 3rd conditional and beyonndddd!!

    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    I'll ask him
    I thought it meant "I'd ask him if I were you". More hypothetical, like.

    Similar:

    If he's going to offer to buy you a car, I'd accept it.

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    Default Re: 1st, 2nd, 3rd conditional and beyonndddd!!

    If it's that hypotheitcal, then why not just do it the standard way and shove both into the second form.

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    Default Re: 1st, 2nd, 3rd conditional and beyonndddd!!

    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    If it's that hypotheitcal, then why not just do it the standard way and shove both into the second form.
    I'm not sure what you mean by "the standard way"?

    shove both into the second form
    How do you mean?

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    Default Re: 1st, 2nd, 3rd conditional and beyonndddd!!

    If he was/were going to come, Id ask him.

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    Default Re: 1st, 2nd, 3rd conditional and beyonndddd!!

    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    If he was/were going to come, Id ask him.
    That has a different meaning to me.


    Sharn: Is Tom going to come to the party at last?

    Dora: I think he's going to <come to the party>, but even if he is, I still don't know if to ask him about you-know-what.

    Sharn: Well, if he is going to come, Id ask him <if I were you>.
    ----

    The verb-time reference and hypotheticality are different to yours.

    If he was/were going to come (remote form, therefore less sure that he will)
    Well, if he's going to come (nonremote form: more sure that he will)
    Last edited by M56; 04-Mar-2005 at 09:01.

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    Default Re: 1st, 2nd, 3rd conditional and beyonndddd!!

    In that context, then, yes. However, the original was a contraction, and I'm not sure the contracted from works. The full form in bold does.
    Last edited by Tdol; 05-Mar-2005 at 00:37.

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