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    Hi, I'd like to know if the following sentence is correct.
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    The poets ( I'm using the articles because I'm referring to the poets of the Renaissance, that is of a specific period), in celebrating the ideal lady, wanted to create the cult of their virgin queen, Elizabeth I.

    Is it possible to say to create the cult?
    Are there better variations? ( I' d like to maintain the word CULT; that is if possible to change only the verb is the combination to create+cult is not acceptable)

    Another thing...
    Should I maintain the preposition IN (in celebrating) or is it possible to leave it out?
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    Default Re: create the cult

    I wouldn't leave out the perposition because it loses the idea that this was how they did it. I think 'create' is OK, but I'd be tempted to use an indirect article there. You could maybe try 'fashion' as an alternative to 'create'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripley
    Hi, I'd like to know if the following sentence is correct.
    Thanks.

    The poets ( I'm using the articles because I'm referring to the poets of the Renaissance, that is of a specific period), in celebrating the ideal lady, wanted to create the cult of their virgin queen, Elizabeth I.

    Is it possible to say to create the cult?
    Are there better variations? ( I' d like to maintain the word CULT; that is if possible to change only the verb is the combination to create+cult is not acceptable)

    Another thing...
    Should I maintain the preposition IN (in celebrating) or is it possible to leave it out?
    Thanks. Rip.

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    In your sentence the word cult by itself brings some negative connotation - at least for me it does.

    I would change that to:

    The poets, in celebrating the ideal lady, wanted to create an ultimate lyrical shrine to the Virgin Queen.

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    Default Re: create the cult

    There was a cult around her- a carefully cultivated image- to paint her picture, you had to use a template, which is why she always looks the same. It may have negative connotations, but I think it's an OK term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    There was a cult around her- a carefully cultivated image- to paint her picture, you had to use a template, which is why she always looks the same. It may have negative connotations, but I think it's an OK term.

    I agree Tdol. Your sentence has got a different structure though and that's why it sounds better - there is no mention that someone created the cult but that the Queen was simply reveered and very charismatic by just being the Queen.

    Perhaps it's an OK word but for some reason the first thing that pops into my mind is a bunch of blood drinking lunatics sacrificing animals or themselves to honor their principles.

    On a lighter note, the Canadian one dollar coin (also known as a Loonie) has just released an updated version of the Queen's image - 50 years older and...ehm....a little less appealing.

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    Default Re: create the cult

    In the entrance to Portcullis House, which is where the MPs have their offices, there is a huge portrait of the Queen, complete with varicose veins and arms like a stevedore- it's the least flattering portrait of her I have ever seen in my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    In the entrance to Portcullis House, which is where the MPs have their offices, there is a huge portrait of the Queen, complete with varicose veins and arms like a stevedore- it's the least flattering portrait of her I have ever seen in my life.
    For a moment I thought you were discribing Popeye whose muscles swell to near bursting his uniform. Do you think she had too much spinach too?

    Vericose veins on a queen? From doing nothing?...hmmm. No wonder they say the British MPs act like lunatics. Who wouldn't looking at that every day?...

    Wouldn't you think she had enough money to fix her spider veins with just a little corrective surgery...???

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    Default Re: create the cult

    She has bad tendonitis in her arm from shaking so many hands, so someoe who lives in the lap of luxury has the same problem as supermarket check-out workers. The royal family are notoriously mean, so maybe she's waiting for someone to offer her surgery for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    She has bad tendonitis in her arm from shaking so many hands, so someoe who lives in the lap of luxury has the same problem as supermarket check-out workers. The royal family are notoriously mean, so maybe she's waiting for someone to offer her surgery for free.

    She has bad tendonitis in her arm from shaking so many hands,


    Geez Louise, my heart's breaking when I hear this....

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    Mind you, Prince Harry's probably developing it from all those Nazi salutes.

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