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    Was and have/has been

    Hello,
    As far as I know, I have to use "was" when something happened in the past but does not affect the present anymore.
    "Has was globally banned." means the guy was banned but he is not banned anymore.
    So if I would write "He has globally been banned" it would mean the ban happened in the past but the guy is still banned?
    Or does this only describe the "ban process"?

    I hope you can understand my question.

    Cheers!

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    Re: Was and have/has been

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Hello,
    As far as I know, I have to use "was" when something happened in the past but does not affect the present anymore.
    "Has was globally banned." means the guy was banned but he is not banned anymore.
    So if I would write "He has globally been banned" it would mean the ban happened in the past but the guy is still banned?
    Or does this only describe the "ban process"?

    I hope you can understand my question.

    Cheers!
    Yes, "He has been banned globally" means that the banning took place in the past, and is still in force up to the time of speaking.

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    Re: Was and have/has been

    Okay good, thanks.

    Hm I see you prefer the "He has been banned globally" instead of "He has globally been banned".
    But I thought it's typical?!
    Of course I believe you :)

    Cheers!

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    Re: Was and have/has been

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Okay good, thanks.

    Hm I see you prefer the "He has been banned globally" instead of "He has globally been banned".
    But I thought it's typical?!
    Of course I believe you :)

    Cheers!
    You can say:
    1. He has been banned globally.
    2. He has been globally banned.

    but not
    3. * He has globally been banned.
    Here the adverb belongs to the main verb.

    If the adverb applies to the whole sentence, as in:
    4. Fortunately, he has been banned you can write:
    5. He has fortunately been banned, but not
    6. * He has been banned fortunately, or
    7. * He has been fortunately banned.

    Sometimes it not easy to decide by rules.

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    Re: Was and have/has been

    I think I have understood it.
    Thank you for your answer!

    Cheers!

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    Re: Was and have/has been

    I'm sorry, but I don't agree that "He was banned" means that he is no longer banned. It simply means that the act of banning took place in the past.

    Why don't we see [person X] in the forums any more?
    He was banned.

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    Re: Was and have/has been

    Okay but how to say if he is still banned or not?
    Yes, I had the same thought if it's about the ban process or not.

    BTW:
    Can the sentence be like this:
    I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned.
    Already shouldn't belong to the mentioned, I guess.

    Cheers!

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    Re: Was and have/has been

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Hello,
    As far as I know, I have to use "was" when something happened in the past but does not affect the present anymore. "Has was globally banned." means the guy was banned but he is not banned anymore.
    No, not necessarily. It depends on context. For example,


    • He was banned last year for life and remains banned to this day.
    • He was banned forever, but after he apologized last week, we allowed him back in.


    Quote Originally Posted by nightmare85
    So if I would write "He has globally been banned" it would mean the ban happened in the past but the guy is still banned?
    Yes, he is still banned.

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    Re: Was and have/has been

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    You can say:
    1. He has been banned globally.
    2. He has been globally banned.

    but not
    3. * He has globally been banned.
    Here the adverb belongs to the main verb.

    If the adverb applies to the whole sentence, as in:
    4. Fortunately, he has been banned you can write:
    5. He has fortunately been banned, but not
    6. * He has been banned fortunately, or
    7. * He has been fortunately banned.

    Sometimes it not easy to decide by rules.
    Hello again,
    I have another small question.
    However, it is not about "has/have been" but about the position of an adverb.

    Does this mean the red sentence is wrong and the green is right?
    This car should definitely be fast.
    This car should be definitely fast.
    Definitely and fast belong together, and if it's the same grammar rule, then the 2nd should be right.

    And those both are true?
    Unfortunately, the car will not be fast. (Standard)
    The car will unfortunately not be fast.
    The car will be unfortunately not fast.


    Thank you!

    Cheers!

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    Re: Was and have/has been

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Does this mean the red sentence is wrong and the green is right?
    No.
    This car should definitely be fast.
    Right
    This car should be definitely fast. Wrong

    We were talking about modification of a verb. You are modifying an adjective here, so the rules I gave might not apply.


    Definitely and fast belong together, and if it's the same grammar rule, then the 2nd should be right.

    I don't think it is the same grammar rule.

    And those both are true?
    Unfortunately, the car will not be fast. (Standard)
    The car will unfortunately not be fast. Right
    The car will be unfortunately not fast. Wrong


    Thank you!

    Cheers!
    You've changed from modifying verbs (in particular, the perfect tenses) to modifying adjectives. All bets are off.
    R.

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