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    It was not until...that?

    Hi I'm wondering whether the word 'that' here sounds awkward:

    It was not until Fraserís family and friends protested that Humana chose to reverse its decision and give him the treatment.

    Does the sentence sound like they protested because of Humana's choice because what I mean is, is that Fraser's family and friends protested Humana not giving medical treatment? They stopped protesting when Humana reversed its decision and give the medical treatment.

    Is there any way I can improve it to remove ambiguity?

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    Re: It was not until...that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulysses View Post
    Hi I'm wondering whether the word 'that' here sounds awkward:

    It was not until Fraserís family and friends protested that Humana chose to reverse its decision and give him the treatment.

    Does the sentence sound like they protested because of Humana's choice because what I mean is, is that Fraser's family and friends protested Humana not giving medical treatment? They stopped protesting when Humana reversed its decision and give the medical treatment.

    Is there any way I can improve it to remove ambiguity?
    Hi

    The word "that" is necessary as a conjunction to introduce a clause.

    There are several ways you could rewrite this sentence:

    1. Humana chose to reverse its decision and give Fraser the treatment (only) after his family and friends protested. (Note tha "after" is a conjunction not a preposition or adverb here.)

    2. Only after his family and friends protested did Humana (choose to) reverse its decision and give Fraser the treatment. (This sentence shows subject-verb inversion because of the negative adverb "only" at the beginning.)

    3. Humana did not (choose to) reverse its decision and give Fraser the treatment until his family and friends protested.

    4. Until Fraser's family and friends protested, Humana did not (choose to) reverse its decision. ("Until" is an adverb here, not a preposition).

    I hope this helps.

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    Re: It was not until...that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulysses View Post
    Hi I'm wondering whether the word 'that' here sounds awkward:

    It was not until Fraserís family and friends protested that Humana chose to reverse its decision and give him the treatment.

    Does the sentence sound like they protested because of Humana's choice because what I mean is, is that Fraser's family and friends protested Humana not giving medical treatment? They stopped protesting when Humana reversed its decision and give the medical treatment.

    Is there any way I can improve it to remove ambiguity?
    Ulysses, your sentence is not ambiguous. Humana refused treatment, Fraser's family and friends protested, and Humana reversed its decision. The only issue that you have left unanswered is the action(s) that Fraser's family took after Humana reversed its decision. I think one can safely assume that no further protest/action was taken by fraser's family. Therefore, your sentence stands on its own merit!

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    Re: It was not until...that?

    Ok this is weird; so I shouldn't even put a comma before 'that'?

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    Re: It was not until...that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulysses View Post
    Ok this is weird; so I shouldn't even put a comma before 'that'?
    No comma is needed. The conjunction eliminates the need for a comma.

    A comma would be needed IF you said: "Until Fraserís family and friends protested, Humana chose to reverse its decision and give him the treatment."

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