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    A turtle, a snail and a tiger have been their cronies for a long time; however, the turtle and the snail have to be following the tiger. Being fed up collecting the wooden spoon , the slow friends made a decision to overcome tiger only one time in their life, then they were able to carry the golden medals on their backs. They couldn't do that and tiger won as usual though. They would have to go after him and become the same friends again. Turtles and snails have been ever losers, on the other hand, tigers are always winners. It might be unfair to see interchangeably their positions, in this case we have to adapt the hands of watch to our decisions; As far as we know this dream has never come true yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taghavi View Post


    A turtle, a snail and a tiger were cronies for a long time; however, the turtle and the snail had to be following the tiger all the time. Being fed up with collecting the wooden spoon [it sounds British but good] , the (two) slow friends decided/ intended to overcome the tiger only once in their livesso that they could/ to carry the golden medals on their backs.

    However, they couldn't do that and the tiger won as usual. They had to go after him, and become the same old friends [as they were before the competition]. Turtles and snails have always been losers; on the other hand, tigers are always winners. It might be unfair to see/consider their positions interchangeable/ equal.In this case, we have to adapt the hands of watch to our decisions (?); as far as we know, this dream has never come true yet.

    Do you study English as a major or just as a second language?

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    Thanks for your editing.
    " ma nemitonim aghrabehaye sa'at ra ba tasmimgiriyeman tanzim konim bar aks bayad tasmim ra ba sa'at tanzim konim" .

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    Quote Originally Posted by chester_100 View Post
    Do you study English as a major or just as a second language?

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    Hello,
    In spite of trying hard, I dont know how to cope with English. You consider my english too poor yes?
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    Some of it is a bit confusing to this American. Suggested changes (in the body of the text) in red.

    Quote Originally Posted by taghavi View Post
    A turtle, a snail and a tiger have been friends for a long time. However, the turtle and the snail always follow the tiger. Fed up with collecting the wooden spoon , the slow friends made a decision to overcome the tiger at least once, then they could carry the golden medals on their backs. They couldn't defeat the tiger, and the tiger won as usual. They would have follow him and resume their usual roles. Turtles and snails have always been losers; on the other hand, tigers are always winners. It might seem unfair that their positions can't be switched. In this case we have to adapt the hands of watch to our decisions; As far as we know this dream has never come true yet.
    What does it mean to adapt the hands of watch?

    Snails can't become tigers?


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    Taghavi, your English skills are, I think, quite good. I would not say, however, that you have trouble coping with English. Rather, at times, you have trouble expressing yourself in English. That is no big deal. Nobody is perfect. (That is a theme with me lately. )

    (Have you seen "Perfect People"?)



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    Quote Originally Posted by taghavi View Post
    A turtle, a snail and a tiger had been friends for a long time; however, the turtle and the snail always had to trail behind the tiger. Being fed up with forever collecting the wooden spoon, the two slow friends made a decision to overcome tiger at least once in their life, so they could wear the gold medal on their backs. Alas, they couldn't do that and the tiger won as usual. They would have to be content to follow behind him, and become the same friends again.
    Turtles and snails have always been losers - except between themselves. On the other hand, tigers are always winners, that is, if there are no cheetahs about! It might be unfair to compare the positions of the tiger with that of the turtle and snail. In cases like this we have to accept that we cannot always deny reality. The dream that all creatures are born equal has never come close to being demonstrated, and we might have to relinquish these dreams to fairyland, as we adopt a rational empirical approach to nature.
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    Hello,

    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee View Post
    Some of it is a bit confusing to this American. Suggested changes (in the body of the text) in red.
    Thanks for your reading and editing.



    What does it mean to adapt the hands of watch? I mean we cannot adapt time to our decision, conversly, we have to adapt our decision to time. This story was about the hands of watch; hours, minutes, and seconds. Here snails and turtles are the symbols of hours and minutes and tigers are pointing out to seconds.



    Snails can't become tigers? Never!


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    HI
    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee View Post
    Taghavi, your English skills are, I think, quite good. I would not say, however, that you have trouble coping with English. Rather, at times, you have trouble expressing yourself in English. That is no big deal. Nobody is perfect. (That is a theme with me lately. )

    How can I express myself in English well? Would you please help me?

    (Have you seen "Perfect People"?)
    Yes, and I enjoyed reading. Thanks. Of course, there are still some people who are perfect, I also believe that human will be perfect someday in future.


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    Thank you for your editing. Everybody gave their own sugestions and some are over my head, in fact, I am confused.

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