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    I am a medical language specialist and often encounter the following in transcribing doctor's dictations:

    "The patient self-referred himself to my office."

    Is this grammatically correct? Isn't it redundant and should instead be:

    "The patient referred himself to my office."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpetro View Post
    I am a medical language specialist and often encounter the following in transcribing doctor's dictations:

    "The patient self-referred himself to my office."

    Is this grammatically correct? Isn't it redundant and should instead be:

    "The patient referred himself to my office."
    Yes, you are right. Or "The patient was self-referred".

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    Thank you so much! I'm a medical transcriptionist and have been transcribing for 16 years. I am continually hearing doctors dictate that
    sentence and it has always driven me crazy since I was 99% certain that
    it is grammatically incorrect. Sometimes I change it to read "the patient referred himself" or "the patient was self-referred", but I guess I just needed some validation on this. It's incredible how the English language has been mutilated over recent years! I spent a long time trying to find an online source for an answer to this question. I am grateful to have
    found this forum. Thanks again!

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    There's a difference between being ungrammatical and redundant.

    She completed the project all by herself without help is also grammatical but redundant.

    She was worried that they would be late and not arrive on time is the same situation.

    Some would say that even the phrase "revert back" is redundant.

    I thought a transcription had to reflect exactly what was said, even when it isn't the most grammatical utterance ever made. Do you have the freedom to correct them?
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Yes, Barb, we are permitted to correct grammar when transcribing. For many doctors, English is their second language, so we can correct their grammar and/or spelling. Often they will spell a word, thinking they are helping us, when in actuality they have misspelled the word. It is our responsibility to double-check the word to make sure they have spelled it correctly and, if not, to then type the correct spelling.

    Many transcriptionists just type what they hear and that's that, but I love English grammar and am a stickler about typing it correctly. I love
    that part of my job!

    I'm sure I will be returning to this forum often. It's great to have found "like minds"!

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    Then they are lucky to have you doing this!
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpetro View Post
    Yes, Barb, we are permitted to correct grammar when transcribing. For many doctors, English is their second language, so we can correct their grammar and/or spelling. Often they will spell a word, thinking they are helping us, when in actuality they have misspelled the word. It is our responsibility to double-check the word to make sure they have spelled it correctly and, if not, to then type the correct spelling.
    You must also remember that working doctors spend their whole day having to speak in language that the hoi polloi understand, so even native English-speaking doctors have to be affected by this.
    Having been a doctor at one time, I can assure you that pedantic grammatical and lexical usage does not a good bedside manner make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    You must also remember that working doctors spend their whole day having to speak in language that the hoi polloi understand, so even native English-speaking doctors have to be affected by this.
    Having been a doctor at one time, I can assure you that pedantic grammatical and lexical usage does not a good bedside manner make.
    Sorry. I didn't mean that to sound offensive to physicians. I completely understand their plight in attempting to speak in layman's terms to their patients. As I stated previously, it's just a pet peeve of mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpetro View Post
    Sorry. I didn't mean that to sound offensive to physicians. I completely understand their plight in attempting to speak in layman's terms to their patients. As I stated previously, it's just a pet peeve of mine.
    I wasn't at all offended. Just adding a point of view.

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    "The patient referred himself to my office."
    this is right!

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